20 Nov
2004
20 Nov
'04
10:59 a.m.
Just took in a Superbrain-QD which was "stored" uncovered in a garage for
the past 10 (or more) years ...
It's got serious mouse damage - underneath and all around the monitor was
stuffed with insulation, wood chips and bits - obviously a large nest.
More seriously, both the main PCB and the power supply PCB are *COVERED*
in mouse droppings, and *SOAKED* in mouse urine (mostly dried up now, but
the damage has been done). Lots of corrosion and such, but it looks
repairable....
But both boards are covered in a layer of dried urine, sprinkled with generous
gobs of urine soaked manure (about the consistancy of fairly dry tar), which is
"glued" to the board.
This is the worst case of mouse damage I have seen ... I would very much
appreciate any tips that can be offered on how best to clean the boards
without damaging them... ???
Regards,
Dave
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20 Nov
20 Nov
11:09 a.m.
Right off the bat I'd be pretty careful of that, in terms of the various
(some pretty hideous) diseases that rodents carry with them - HantaVirus
comes immediately to mind.
Me, I'da left the damn thing right where it was... yuk!
Just my unsolicited 200 millidollar.. ;}
Cheers
John
11:29 a.m.
Dave Dunfield wrote:
Just took in a Superbrain-QD which was
"stored" uncovered in a garage for
the past 10 (or more) years ...
It's got serious mouse damage - underneath and all around the monitor was
stuffed with insulation, wood chips and bits - obviously a large nest.
More seriously, both the main PCB and the power supply PCB are *COVERED*
in mouse droppings, and *SOAKED* in mouse urine (mostly dried up now, but
the damage has been done). Lots of corrosion and such, but it looks
repairable....
But both boards are covered in a layer of dried urine, sprinkled with generous
gobs of urine soaked manure (about the consistancy of fairly dry tar), which is
"glued" to the board.
This is the worst case of mouse damage I have seen ... I would very much
appreciate any tips that can be offered on how best to clean the boards
without damaging them... ??
Mice are carriers of the Hanta Virus and other contagion. Wear rubber
gloves and a surgical mask while cleaning the system.
1:56 p.m.
New subject: Dealing with Mouse damage? (Not the computer kind)
From Mark Crispin's web page
(http://staff.washington.edu/mrc/important.html) -
"As of March 2000, twenty-one cases of Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPV)
have been reported in Washington State. About 42% of the victims die of HPV.
The carrier is the insidiously cute deer mouse, which has big ears, big
eyes, a white belly, white feet, and a tail with sharply defined white
sides. If you find mouse droppings or mouse nesting material, resist the
urge to sweep it up! You'll kick up tiny particles of mouse urine,
droppings, and saliva into the air, a process known as aerosolization, and
you'll breath it in. If Hantavirus is in those particles, you've set
yourself up to get HPV. Instead, wear a mask and rubber gloves, and
carefully wet down the area with a disinfectant that kills virus (such as
bleach). Take up the contaminated materials with a damp towel, then mop the
area with disinfectant."
Lee Courtney
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To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Daling with Mouse damage? (Not the computer kind)
Just took in a Superbrain-QD which was "stored" uncovered in a garage for
the past 10 (or more) years ...
It's got serious mouse damage - underneath and all around the monitor was
stuffed with insulation, wood chips and bits - obviously a large nest.
More seriously, both the main PCB and the power supply PCB are *COVERED*
in mouse droppings, and *SOAKED* in mouse urine (mostly dried up now, but
the damage has been done). Lots of corrosion and such, but it looks
repairable....
But both boards are covered in a layer of dried urine, sprinkled
with generous
gobs of urine soaked manure (about the consistancy of fairly dry
tar), which is
"glued" to the board.
This is the worst case of mouse damage I have seen ... I would very much
appreciate any tips that can be offered on how best to clean the boards
without damaging them... ???
Regards,
Dave
--
dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Vintage computing equipment collector.
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
7:06 a.m.
New subject: Dealing with Mouse damage? (Not the computer kind)
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Lee Courtney wrote:
It should also be noted that Hantavirus is most prominent in the
southwestern states of the US. I'm surprised to find any cases at all in
Washington state.
Here's some data for California:
A total of 13 (8 fatal) California residents have been diagnosed with HPS
dating back to 1980. Since January 1, 1994, 8 (3 fatal) cases have been
documented. Two new HPS cases were identified during September [1995]...
http://www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/news/nehealth.htm
Old data (circa 1995) but I'm sure you get the idea of the rarity of
Hantavirus in California, for example.
The conclusion is that, yes, you should always be careful, but Hantavirus
is not ubiquitous, and you shouldn't panic if you accidentally come in
contact with rodent poop.
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From Mark
Crispin's web page
(http://staff.washington.edu/mrc/important.html) -
"As of March 2000, twenty-one cases of Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPV)
have been reported in Washington State. About 42% of the victims die of HPV.
The carrier is the insidiously cute deer mouse, which has big ears, big
eyes, a white belly, white feet, and a tail with sharply defined white
sides. If you find mouse droppings or mouse nesting material, resist the
urge to sweep it up! You'll kick up tiny particles of mouse urine,
droppings, and saliva into the air, a process known as aerosolization, and
you'll breath it in. If Hantavirus is in those particles, you've set
yourself up to get HPV. Instead, wear a mask and rubber gloves, and
carefully wet down the area with a disinfectant that kills virus (such as
bleach). Take up the contaminated materials with a damp towel, then mop the
area with disinfectant." 
4:09 p.m.
New subject: Dealing with Mouse damage? (Not the computer kind)
"As of March 2000, twenty-one cases of Hantavirus
Pulmonary Syndrome (HPV)
have been reported in Washington State. About 42% of the victims die of HPV.
Actually, just call it hantavirus. Where I work (So Cal), HPV to me indicates
a sexually transmitted disease (human papilloma virus => genital warts).
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19 Nov
19 Nov
6:41 p.m.
New subject: Dealing with Mouse damage? (Not the computer kind)
As far as cleaning the boards, we had a long thread here, last year, google
under "mouse doody" and you'll get a lot of tips,suggestions and helpful
advice.
I live in SE Arizona, which is probably the heartland of the Hantavirus, so
taking precautions is a second nature. Every autumn and spring I clean out two
large sheds (12x20 and 12x24) and always find I'll have a few machines in
storage that have had "visitors" over the summer. Last year I salvaged several
alpha boards that had mouse nests. After taking the proper precautions.,ie,
wearing gloves and masks, I was able to clean and restore the boards to
working order, including one that had almost a hard accretion of mouse feces
and urine. I believe that the Hantavirus is most endemic to only a few species
of field mice, but then again I don't go out and catalog the wildlife here. I
am more likely to get bit by a rattlsnake here, than by contracting the
Hantavirus. Either way, I always take precautions when moving around my
collection.
Who knew that collecting computers could be so dangerous. :-)
Cheers
Tom
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
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"As of
March 2000, twenty-one cases of Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPV)
have been reported in Washington State. About 42% of the victims die of HPV.
24 Nov
24 Nov
10:13 a.m.
Dave Dunfield wrote:
Just took in a Superbrain-QD which was
"stored" uncovered in a garage for
the past 10 (or more) years ...
It's got serious mouse damage - underneath and all around the monitor was
stuffed with insulation, wood chips and bits - obviously a large nest.
More seriously, both the main PCB and the power supply PCB are *COVERED*
in mouse droppings, and *SOAKED* in mouse urine (mostly dried up now, but
the damage has been done). Lots of corrosion and such, but it looks
repairable....
But both boards are covered in a layer of dried urine, sprinkled with generous
gobs of urine soaked manure (about the consistancy of fairly dry tar), which is
"glued" to the board.
This is the worst case of mouse damage I have seen ... I would very much
appreciate any tips that can be offered on how best to clean the boards
without damaging them... ???
Regards,
Dave
Get a RABIES shot first or what ever the local vet recomends, your life is
more important.
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