13 Jan
1998
13 Jan
'98
5:01 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Higginbotham <higginbo(a)netpath.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: Firsts
At 09:32 PM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
The firsts laptops used to have handle (I'm talking XT's and 286s) but I
guess these were removed to make the machine smaller and lighter.
By the way they are not laptops either; I always have to find a table to put
them on so I can use them. If I put them on my lap I'm always afraid to drop
them ;-)
I'll try not to insert the signature in the middle of the message this
time:)
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Francois Auradon.
Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon
>The TRS-80 Model 100 and it's amigos the
Nec 8201 and Olivetti ??? had
Visit the SANCTUARY at
http://home.att.net/~francois.auradonhat's probably
why they are called laptops and not portables.
Shoot, it's not even a laptop. I've seen Pentium notebooks bulkier than a
M100. :)
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net- 
13 Jan
13 Jan
7:52 p.m.
;-) Francois Auradon head-scratched, yawned, then typed:
>Shoot, it's not even a laptop. I've seen
Pentium notebooks bulkier than a
>M100. :)
>-John Higginbotham-
>-limbo.netpath.net-
[nip]
John, *all* pentium notebooks are bulkier than an M100 (under 4 pounds &
fits in a small briefcase) -- AAMAF, the only Pentium based system I've
seen that even comes close (and if it beats the M100 it's not by much) is
the Toshiba Liberetto (IIRC) which was P75 based, 8M RAM & either a 540 or
850 Meg H.D. (Don't remember which one.)
Otherwise, all of the Pentium books are the incredible hulk compared to an
M100/T102/T200.
The firsts laptops used to have handle (I'm talking
XT's and 286s) but I
guess these were removed to make the machine smaller and lighter.
By the way they are not laptops either; I always have to find a table to put
them on so I can use them. If I put them on my lap I'm always afraid to drop
them ;-)
Francois Auradon.
Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon
Francois,
The first laptops were the Epson HX-20 (IIRC -- or was it the PX-8???) and
the Radio Shack (Tandy) Model 100 following shortly thereafter... The HX-20
had a built-in microcassette tape deck, but the Model 100 had a much larger
screen. Unlike today's "laptops" (which personally I wouldn't want on
mine)
both machines had "real" keyboards. (tho I love my T200's best -- real
cursor keys in a plus arrangement, not the chicklets in a row.)
See ya,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed,
Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not*
zmerch(a)northernway.net | be your first career choice.
2:59 p.m.
Merch,
Aside from the oldie topics:
About liberettos;
Things have happened and many guys have upgraded and hacked their
liberettos successfully. Now has 1gb or more (requires slim 2.5"
hd's in there) and loads of ram like 32mb or more not world-jerky, hd
killer 8mb and o/c'ed them to 100mhz and they have gotten linux in
'em successfully as well.
IBM did stopped producing those PC110's, 486 machines I
think. Boo. :( There's another lightweights weight such as aero,
T100X, TI2000 (sweet huge screen but battery life is joke and
brain-dead 286).
I think that today's is Libertto's so popular as Aero's used to be
similar to Bug car in 70's. :) Unrealated to this, main issue
especially for linux user is specific video chipset, Negomagic, found
in many current and in production notebooks are UNSUPPORTED because
that stupid company won't help them with info even offered payment.
Also the I20 as well. Hint: remember Diamond.
Back to oldie stuff now...
And, hey, all portable *ARE* bulky anyway even my Luddite is very
thick and heavy. Even the T1000 early one is clusmy too.
My opinion is that IBM 5100 is the winner for most heaviest and
unprotected portable. Even modern smallest desktops with built-in
UPS measured in minutes and a small self-powered monitor is stil far
Snip!
> See ya,
> Roger "Merch" Merchberger
> --
> Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed,
> Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not*
> zmerch(a)northernway.net | be your first career choice.
Take care eveybody then!
Jason D.
from portable item. :)
;-) Francois Auradon head-scratched, yawned, then
typed:
Snip about moaning about bulkiness.
[nip]
John, *all* pentium notebooks are bulkier than an M100 (under 4 pounds &
fits in a small briefcase) -- AAMAF, the only Pentium based system I've
seen that even comes close (and if it beats the M100 it's not by much) is
the Toshiba Liberetto (IIRC) which was P75 based, 8M RAM & either a 540 or
850 Meg H.D. (Don't remember which one.)
This is original configurations since then, Toshiba are now selling
updated configurations with more stuff in them.
Otherwise, all of the Pentium books are the incredible hulk compared to an
M100/T102/T200.
snip about handles..
I wouldn't have any handles on anyway. Reasonably good idea this way
so users are forced to hold it carefully and stuff their portables
into padded bags/cases. Handles invites accidents and some swing
around too easily, bang into other objects that could crack/break
screens and hard drives like that, handles breaks, *CRASH!*
17 Jan
17 Jan
3:07 p.m.
New subject: 12 year old scanner needs software
I'm looking for some software for the original HP ScanJet. Since the
scanner is
12 years old, I thought someone in this group might be able to help.
I need one of the following:
Caere Omnipage 2.1
ZSoft Photofinish
and I hate to even type this, but Windows 2.0...
or any other scanning software that supports the 9190A ScanJet
Thanks,
Don
3:20 p.m.
New subject: 12 year old scanner needs software
Skipped content of type multipart/mixed
3:50 p.m.
New subject: 12 year old scanner needs software
At 06:20 PM 1/17/98 -0800, you wrote:
Don,
I don't know about that Windows 2.0 requirement, but if you go to
http://hpcc887.external.hp.com:9000/awssnew/index.html?Product_Type=Scanners
and chose "HP ScanJet scanners" for the family and "HP ScanJet scanner
(PC/ISA)"
for the Name, you'll get pointers to all the documentation and software
HP has
available for this scanner. I don't see any mention of Windows 2.0
there.
Dave
Dave,
Thanks for the tip... HP has removed the files from that site for the
original
ScanJet. Luckily I have them. I would like to find the 3rd pary software
written
to support this scanner. I can use it now. But have to stay with Dos 3.3 to
get it to work. Supposedly The old Caere software works with W95....
Don
14 Jan
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