<From: Tony Duell &lt;ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk&gt; <Didn't DEC make a tabletop model of one of the PDP8's (PDP8/e?) which had <handles? That would date from about the same time as the P850 A number of the 8 series aquired desktop status but never by intent portable. They simply weren't rack bound. The HP???? struck me as something portable(toteable) as it was a complete machine that could be moved be moved from one place to another as a unit. The earliest thing I'd seen that was portable was a home brew 8080 system with build in keyboard and TV RF output back in '75 and it wasn't a PT SOL. Though the core of it was S100 boards from an altair. Allison