2 Dec
2008
2 Dec
'08
7:58 p.m.
On 12/2/2008 01:01 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:20:58 -0800
From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: PDP-11 Zork Manual: Save $2,348.31
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Now if someone could just find a disk image of the software!
Zane
FWIW: I have the following 8" Digital diskettes labeled as follows:
1) RT Adventure, Tasks 8/7/79, It has a slip of paper with the
printed directory output
The files are .DATs, .SAVs, and ATEXT.TXT
2) "New" Adventure Kit, RT Format, directory slip dated 9-Sep-83
The files show .FOR files these may be source
3) RT Dungeon, RX01 patched
4) RT Dungeon, RX02
5) RT Dungeon original, .DIR output files dated 11-Mar-78 to 19-Jan-79
No sources, but RT11 runtimes - this looks bootable
6) RT Dungeon original, #2, DTEXT.DAT (Rename to T.DAT for RX01 version)
7) Latest Dungeon 2/21/79, RSX-11M
8) Dungeon Disk 2, 2/21/79, RSX-11M
9,10,11) Dungeon OBJ 5/1/79, Files11, VOLID: DUNGEON [303,333] Disks 1,2,3 of 3
12) ZORK2,3 ??? (copy made on an original 1980 VMS V2.0 RXO1 UPG kit!)
Two pages:
1) DUNGEON RELEASE NOTES: RT11
5 steps about the program and how to run it.
2) Fix infinite vampire bat loop in Dungeon V2.2
handwritten photocopy of how to patch RT11 and RSX11M Dungeon programs
The back side of both have my Mill office mailstop on them.
Evidently send via interoffice mail, likely from Supnik.
Does someone in the Boston area still have a working 8" diskette drive??
Dave.
4:28 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Dave Mitton <dave at mitton.com> wrote:
FWIW: I have the following 8" Digital diskettes
labeled as follows:
1) RT Adventure, Tasks 8/7/79, It has a slip of paper with the printed
directory output
.
.
.
12) ZORK2,3 ??? (copy made on an original 1980 VMS
V2.0 RXO1 UPG kit!)
I'd be curious to see what's on #12.
If this is Infocom's Zork2 and Zork3 for the PDP-11 (which they could
be), I'm not expecting the game files themselves to be anything new
and unknown. There's an old project around that allows you to patch
any game file version to essentially any other, given a common game
file as a starting point. The early days are quite well represented
and the bugs analyzed in great detail.
What I'm curious about is the Z-machine on that (those?) disks (i.e.,
not for any of Bob's FORTRAN versions). I know there is now a modern
Z-machine for PDP-11, w/source, but I'm always curious about how the
did things "back in the day".
The back side of both have my Mill office
mailstop on them.
Evidently send via interoffice mail, likely from Supnik.
Interesting.
Does someone in the Boston area still have a working
8" diskette drive??
To assist indirectly, it's not necessary to have that 8" drive on a
PDP-11 to read RX01 disks. Someone with an 8" drive on a PC could
help image the contents, too (the only issue I could think of might be
with sector interleave). RX01s are "standard" IBM 37-mumble low-level
formatted. RX02s, though, are a different thing entirely. One easy
way to do that is a physical backup using a real RX02 or a clone (like
a Data Systems drive) on a UNIX or VMS machine that can take an RX211
or RXV21. I'm sure it's possible to do it on an RT-11 box, but I'm
not sure how I'd do that without looking it up first (disk copying is
easy; not as sure about disk imaging).
-ethan
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