5 May
1999
5 May
'99
5:43 a.m.
Hi Chuck,
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 11:16 AM
Subject: More info RE: KA650 & uVAX
Very cool, I actually picked up three UVAX38xx's in
two of them were KA650
cpus and in one was a KA655 CPU. All three have been "upgraded" to 32MB of
third party memory. The "skunk" boxes were fairly trashed by the process of
sparing them out. I'm guessing that they were part of a cluster.
Lucky day ;-))
As for peripherals they all have TK70 tape drives, and
the > associated
controller,
starting to get envious ;-))
one has a board pair M7164/M7165 connected by short
cables
across the top.
M7164/M7165 is the KDA50 SDI controller, not SCSI.
And there is a drive hiding in one of them. (I've
not
identified it yet) they have what look like SCSI II connectors
but a person
suggested they might be DSSI connectors (which I know nothing about).
Could be SCSI, could be DSSI, tell us the type ...
I'm going to see if I can bring one of the boxes to
life, All are missing
the panel that would have covered the card cage. If not I'll try to enhance
the speed of my world box bases uVax II.
I would start with the ka655.
Not because she's faster, but the monitor program is better (sometimes the
ka650 have the same, but not always)
cheers & have fun,
emanuel
5 May
5 May
1:50 p.m.
At 11:43 AM 5/5/99 -0600, emanuel stiebler wrote:
Ok, I give up, what the heck is this? QDA "Quad" processor. Ok, is it used
for clustering or something?
one has a
board pair M7164/M7165 connected by short cables
across the top.
M7164/M7165 is the KDA50 SDI controller, not SCSI. Could be SCSI, could be DSSI, tell us the type ...
KFSQA - Q22 DSSI Controller, the drives hiding in the cabinet are two
RF71's. So it looks like 1.6GB about of disk space. Of course I have no
idea if the drives work or not, but it is beginning to look like it will
make sense to get one of the BA213's together as a "real" machine.
(Generally the machines at these auctions have been either intentionally
stripped of things like disk drives that might contain "valuable" data, or
they have been used as parts sources and so are not complete.
So here are some "skunk box" questions:
What type of backplane is this? Looks almost like it is Q/CD all the way
across.
There is an ethernet interface in one called a DESQA any good? Seems like a
follow on to the DEQNA as it has both 10B2 and AUI ports on it. The other
two chassis both had DELQA's in them.
Since my uVAX II is chomping along now as a uVAX III with the KA650 I think
I'll leave that as is. One of my other TK70 drives has the plate attached
so that answers that question, and by careful disassembly I can see that
the connectors are correct in terms of how I plugged them, so the only
question is if the fault was a board short or if the power connector is
non-standard. Anyone?
--Chuck
4:07 p.m.
Greetings..
I have had TK's in all sorts of enclosures- my uVAX II's TK-50 has
been installed in a pc-type drive case, and is currently living in a
boardless DECmate III chassis. The power connector is very standard to my
knowledge. I did lose a tk-50 beforehand, though, due to improper
insulation between the PCB on the drive and the metal of the box it was
installed in. I agree with the cardboard solution- Whenever I mount drives
of any type that I don't have many of I always either cover the bare metal
case with contact paper or a piece of carboard or something
non-conductive.
The one that I lost came from a failed machine, and had been
sitting around on a friend's dirty workbench for a while. I didn't clean
it quite good enough, and a piece of tiny wire had fallen where it
shouldn't have.
My uVAX 3500 also has had it's tk-70 running on a variety of power
sources, and I've always hooked it up to a standard drive power connector.
Greg Linder
fluke(a)mcs.net
4:51 p.m.
On Wed, 5 May 1999, Greg Linder wrote:
installed in. I agree with the cardboard solution-
Whenever I mount drives
of any type that I don't have many of I always either cover the bare metal
case with contact paper or a piece of carboard or something
non-conductive.
A strip of mylar or other thick, durable plastic-like material cut from a
sheet would probably be even better.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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5 May
5 May
5:06 p.m.
New subject: Bootable floppy?
Is it possible to make a bootable floppy for a VAXStation 2000 or is the
system too large for the disk?
If it is possible, what is the procedure?
- don
5:33 p.m.
New subject: Bootable floppy?
At 10:06 PM 5/5/99 -0700, Don wrote:
Is it possible to make a bootable floppy for a
VAXStation 2000 or is the
system too large for the disk?
Yes its possible, however it is _lots_ easier to boot it from the network
if you've got a spare PeeCee lying about and can put a free UNIX on it. The
magic there is "mop server" and there are versions for all flavors.
On a unix box I believe you can use DD to copy out an image to the disk,
this is one of the ways that NetBSD can be bootstrapped, the FAQ at
www.netbsd.org (follow the links to the VAX FAQ) has better instructions.
--Chuck
6 May
6 May
6:26 a.m.
New subject: Bootable floppy?
On Wed, 5 May 1999, Chuck McManis wrote:
At 10:06 PM 5/5/99 -0700, Don wrote:
Thanks! I'll check it out. I was, in fact, thinking VMS when I posed the
question but I'll look at NetBSD also.
- don
Is it possible to make a bootable floppy for a
VAXStation 2000 or is the
system too large for the disk?
Yes its possible, however it is _lots_ easier to boot it from the network
if you've got a spare PeeCee lying about and can put a free UNIX on it. The
magic there is "mop server" and there are versions for all flavors.
On a unix box I believe you can use DD to copy out an image to the disk,
this is one of the ways that NetBSD can be bootstrapped, the FAQ at
www.netbsd.org (follow the links to the VAX FAQ) has better instructions.
--Chuck
1:28 a.m.
New subject: Bootable floppy?
On Wed, 5 May 1999, Don Maslin wrote:
Is it possible to make a bootable floppy for a VAXStation 2000 or is the
system too large for the disk?
Of what? VMS? the answer is yes, sorta. Standalone backup is one case
where it fits on a RX33 (1.2mb 5.25). Also VMboot. The kernal for VMS is
1-2mb and would never fit.
If it is possible, what is the procedure?
Varies depending on the version and the utility.
Allison
6:44 a.m.
New subject: Bootable floppy?
On Thu, 6 May 1999 allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 1999, Don Maslin wrote:
Version in question is 5.5.
- don
Is it possible to make a bootable floppy for a VAXStation 2000 or is the
system too large for the disk?
Of what? VMS? the answer is yes, sorta. Standalone backup is one case
where it fits on a RX33 (1.2mb 5.25). Also VMboot. The kernal for VMS is
1-2mb and would never fit.
If it is possible, what is the procedure?
Varies depending on the version and the utility. Allison
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