????????? is a good question! I saw it in 'elm' tonite first, acting wierd, showing up as MIME. However, under Eudora Pro/Mac, it's just a plain message. I don't know unless 'elm' is going by something in the following: X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: How do you finance/afford your computer collection? References: <007d01bfdbe6$da49e4a0$7664c0d0@ajp166> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin" &lt;marvin(a)rain.org&gt; To: &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 12:30 PM Subject: Re: How do you finance/afford your computer collection? one. than I see your msgs in a stretched font. Quite different from all the others. In the headers of your msg, we see:- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Others are:- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (From a Unix box I think) or Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" (Another Outlook User) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In short, your mailer is using an oddbod charset. If you are using Outlook or Outlook Express, have a look at Format Encoding. In the top toolbar when you are writing or replying to a msg. It will be set to user-defined. Set it to Western European (Windows) and it will revert to ISO-8859-1 which seems to be straight ASCII. BTW Allison, when you replied, your mailer switched to the same encoding as his, mine did too, I had to manually change the format. Grrrr. Bill Gates has a lot to answer for... Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)tell.net.au ICQ: 1970476

Geoff Roberts wrote: Okay, I just changed it from user-defined to Western. Is this message coming through okay? FWIW, I've been using Netscape for years with no problems that *I* am aware of :).

Hi, It's not every time but at least very frequent when I read mail from you OutlookExpress(or outlook distress ;)) changes fonts to a larger one. My guess is you may be replying to a RTF or HTML message or have some odd embedded controls. Cant see it here as from work the mailer is PINE. Maybe someday I'll replace OutlookExpress but for the time being it mostly does what I want. Allison On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Marvin wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Geoff Roberts wrote: [...] Why are you sending Luzedoze e-mail to this list? Please either find a way to send plain ASCII or delete Luzedoze from your system and install something more useful that can send messages properly. However, you need to remember that not everyone here uses that Microsoft rubbish, so you shouldn't be sending e-mail that requires the recipient to do anything other than read it. -- R. D. Davis rdd(a)perqlogic.com http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd 410-744-4900

Take a chill pill. I happen to run outlookdistress as I havent time to test several of the candidates. Nominally I post as clear text/ascii but sometime the originating mail is "other" and it's hard to control that. On the ohter hand I also use Pine Half the time... Allison

----- Original Message ----- From: "R. D. Davis" &lt;rdd(a)smart.net&gt; To: &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 2:08 AM Subject: Re: How do you finance/afford your computer collection? messages. Er, if you set the format as I have said, it does send it as plain ascii. (Or as near as it can get to it) Pegasus is not too bad. I use Outlook Express here because I like certain features, but it does have a few traps for the unwary. They can be overcome and it's relatively well behaved, (apart from it line wrapping ism's which are a bit of a pain at times. format Microsoft I am quite aware of this thank you. The msg was intended for someone who appears to be using it. It was also intended as gen info for anyone on the list that may be using it and had the same problem. I wasn't. It appears Marvin was, but he was unaware of it. That issue is fixed. :^) Complain to Bill Gates about Outlook Express. :^) Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)tell.net.au ICQ: 1970476