16 Jul
2015
16 Jul
'15
4:19 p.m.
Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my 3000/400 up; V7.0 firmware; and
it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me off-list?
Thanks,
Sean
16 Jul
16 Jul
8:28 p.m.
Maybe my RRD45 doesn't like the "700 MB CD" ... does anyone know if
it's
possible to bootstrap the installation from my existing CISC VAXcluster
with the ALPHA084*.ISO images I got from HP? Cross-platform MOP boot from
the VAX with the *.ISO images mounted locally on the VAX, perhaps? I assume
it's just a save set that's restored with the BACKUP command once one can
actually get to the point of a DCL prompt on the machine?
Best,
Sean
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my 3000/400 up;
V7.0 firmware; and
it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me off-list?
Thanks,
Sean
17 Jul
17 Jul
6:53 a.m.
related question - I was not able to make a bootable/readable image from
the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have been a bad source. Is there a
best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3 install CD that will work in
an Alpha? Just curious as to why I was not able to make it work. I make
CD's all of the time from ISO, but maybe I need to do more research on the
subject as far as size and set up go for an Alpha-bootable CD, or CDRW type
I need to use, etc. I'd offer my ISO, but I don't know if it's good.
Bill
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
Maybe my RRD45 doesn't like the "700 MB
CD" ... does anyone know if it's
possible to bootstrap the installation from my existing CISC VAXcluster
with the ALPHA084*.ISO images I got from HP? Cross-platform MOP boot from
the VAX with the *.ISO images mounted locally on the VAX, perhaps? I assume
it's just a save set that's restored with the BACKUP command once one can
actually get to the point of a DCL prompt on the machine?
Best,
Sean
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my
3000/400 up; V7.0 firmware; and
it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a
valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me
off-list?
Thanks,
Sean
7:04 a.m.
I've got a few to try so I'll burn those today and see what happens. For
the 8.4 disc I have, I used the same process to burn the disc that I did
for OpenVMS VAX V7.3 ... I just copied the *.iso to a Mac and used Disk
Utility to burn the *.iso just to a regular CD-R. For V7.3 VAX this
produced a perfectly good bootable CD, but on Alpha, when I try to boot the
disc, it looks like it'll get started, but it will churn for a little while
but eventually come back and say it can't find the file SYSBOOT.EXE.
I know the monitor environment variable BOOT_OSFLAGS needs to be set to 0,0
and I've ensured that's done ...
I definitely get the sense that my Alpha is a little more "finicky" than my
VAXen are ... seems to be kind of picky about what it will run and what
hardware it will work with! I'll try these disc images today and write back
with my experiences; I hope I can get at least one of them to come up :O
Tru64 and NetBSD boot fine on this machine but I've never been able to get
it to run OpenVMS ... I'm trying to rectify that this week :O
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:53 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
related question - I was not able to make a
bootable/readable image from
the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have been a bad source. Is there a
best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3 install CD that will work in
an Alpha? Just curious as to why I was not able to make it work. I make
CD's all of the time from ISO, but maybe I need to do more research on the
subject as far as size and set up go for an Alpha-bootable CD, or CDRW type
I need to use, etc. I'd offer my ISO, but I don't know if it's good.
Bill
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
Maybe my RRD45 doesn't like the "700 MB
CD" ... does anyone know if it's
possible to bootstrap the installation from my existing CISC VAXcluster
with the ALPHA084*.ISO images I got from HP? Cross-platform MOP boot from
the VAX with the *.ISO images mounted locally on the VAX, perhaps? I
assume
it's just a save set that's restored with
the BACKUP command once one can
actually get to the point of a DCL prompt on the machine?
Best,
Sean
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
> Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my 3000/400 up; V7.0 firmware;
and
it does
not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a
valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me
off-list?
Thanks,
Sean
9:22 a.m.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
related question - I was not able to make a
bootable/readable image from
the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have been a bad source. Is there a
best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3 install CD that will work in
an Alpha? Just curious as to why I was not able to make it work. I make
CD's all of the time from ISO, but maybe I need to do more research on the
subject as far as size and set up go for an Alpha-bootable CD, or CDRW type
I need to use, etc. I'd offer my ISO, but I don't know if it's good.
Bill
Your Alpha system may not support reading burned CDs at all. I know mine
doesn't.
9:30 a.m.
I'm using a genuine DEC RRD45 so no sector size issue and it's worked fine
with burned CDs in the past to load my VAX machines ... I've never had too
much trouble with burns ... I think I just got a funky image from HP ...
other people have reported issues with it ... I could see the RRD45 getting
hung up more on it being a "700 MB CD" rather than it being a burn ... but
the RRD45 is the newest drive I've got.
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:22 PM, John Willis <chocolatejollis38 at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, william degnan
<billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
related question - I was not able to make a
bootable/readable image from
the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have been a bad source. Is there a
best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3 install CD that will work in
an Alpha? Just curious as to why I was not able to make it work. I
make
CD's all of the time from ISO, but maybe I
need to do more research on
the
subject as far as size and set up go for an
Alpha-bootable CD, or CDRW
type
I need to use, etc. I'd offer my ISO, but I
don't know if it's good.
Bill
Your Alpha system may not support reading burned CDs at all. I know mine
doesn't.
9:55 a.m.
thanks for the info. The Alpha in question is a 2100 4/275. It works
enough to connect to the web but I need to fix one of the drives.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:22 PM, John Willis <chocolatejollis38 at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, william degnan
<billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
related question - I was not able to make a
bootable/readable image from
the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have been a bad source. Is there a
best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3 install CD that will work in
an Alpha? Just curious as to why I was not able to make it work. I
make
CD's all of the time from ISO, but maybe I
need to do more research on
the
subject as far as size and set up go for an
Alpha-bootable CD, or CDRW
type
I need to use, etc. I'd offer my ISO, but I
don't know if it's good.
Bill
Your Alpha system may not support reading burned CDs at all. I know mine
doesn't.
3:26 p.m.
Well, it took a little bit of monkeying around but I was able to get the
the V7.3 ISO I received from a helpful fellow list member to boot on my
3000/400 ... it seems to only like my RRD37 drive and only on the internal
SCSI channel ... she is finicky ... but hey, whatever gets the job done :O
Woo hoo! Off to load my first Alpha VMS machine! Thanks all!
Best,
San
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
thanks for the info. The Alpha in question is a 2100
4/275. It works
enough to connect to the web but I need to fix one of the drives.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:22 PM, John Willis <chocolatejollis38 at gmail.com
wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > related question - I was not
able to make a bootable/readable image
from
> Your Alpha system may not support reading burned CDs at all.
I know mine
> doesn't.
> the ISO I have 7.3, although it might have
been a bad source. Is
there a
> best way/ best software to make a usable 7.3
install CD that will work
in
> > an Alpha? Just curious as to why I was not able to make it work. I
> make
> > CD's all of the time from ISO, but maybe I need to do more research on
> the
> > subject as far as size and set up go for an Alpha-bootable CD, or CDRW
> type
> > I need to use, etc. I'd offer my ISO, but I don't know if it's
good.
> > Bill
>
7 a.m.
I'm all set; thanks to all that responded! I've got a few different *.isos
to try and hopefully one of them will be palatable to my old 3000/400 ...
I'd rather run VMS on it than Tru64 :O I truly appreciate it!
Best,
Sean
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my 3000/400 up;
V7.0 firmware; and
it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me off-list?
Thanks,
Sean
8:25 a.m.
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Sean Caron wrote:
Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my 3000/400 up;
V7.0 firmware; and
it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me off-list?
I have a 7.2 CDrom and a 7.3-1 CDrom that I can send you if you cannot find
an ISO.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
8:51 a.m.
Thanks, Richard! I'll try some of the ISOs I received and failing that I
might take you up on your offer. I'm going to get this box running VMS one
way or the other :O
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Richard Loken <
richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Sean Caron wrote:
Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my
3000/400 up; V7.0 firmware; and
it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a
valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me
off-list?
I have a 7.2 CDrom and a 7.3-1 CDrom that I can send you if you cannot find
an ISO.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a
father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
8:58 a.m.
Sector size?
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Richard Loken <
richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Sean Caron wrote:
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The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu>
Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org>
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University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
Anyone got an ISO handy? Trying to get my
3000/400 up; V7.0 firmware; and
it does not like the OpenVMS V8.4 ISOs I got from HP ... I do have a
valid
Hobbyist license ... please chat with me
off-list?
I have a 7.2 CDrom and a 7.3-1 CDrom that I can send you if you cannot find
an ISO.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a
father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
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