14 Jan
2003
14 Jan
'03
8:37 p.m.
I would be interested in buying XENIX, or trading for something. I would
have replied to your email, but I read these forums on the web interface,
so your email didn't appear there, and I don't have it delivered.
If anyone has copies still availible, please email me:
justin(a)raspberrytea.com
BTW, whats true about the number of manuals/disks, etc, etc.
Anyone have good resources on capabilities? does X compile on it?
support for video. I assume it doesn't work, but then I've seen stranger
things.
Thanks!,
Justin
15 Jan
15 Jan
7:38 a.m.
BTW, whats true about the number of manuals/disks,
etc, etc.
Anyone have good resources on capabilities? does X compile on it?
support for video. I assume it doesn't work, but then I've seen stranger
things.
If this is what I think it is - ie IBM XENIX for the PC/AT it's a
fairly early XENIX 286 which is probably at a level of functionality
roughly equivalent to UNIX System III.
Being a 16 bit 286 port you have to live within the limits of a 64K
segmented architecture - I'm pretty sure the compiler supported
small model (1 x 64k code segment + 1 x 64k data segment)
and middle model (multiple 64k code segments + 1 64k data segment).
It may or may not have supported large model (multiple code and
data segments) but even if it did the support was probably pretty buggy.
Don't even think about trying to build things like X unless you
are extremely masochistic.
8:57 a.m.
m_d said:
Being a 16 bit 286 port you have to live within the limits of a 64K
segmented architecture - I'm pretty sure the compiler supported
small model (1 x 64k code segment + 1 x 64k data segment)
and middle model (multiple 64k code segments + 1 64k data segment).
It may or may not have supported large model (multiple code and
data segments) but even if it did the support was probably pretty buggy.
Don't even think about trying to build things like X unless you
are extremely masochistic.
I've got Xenix 286 disks + manuals somewhere. I bought it second-hand
in ~1992 and got many hours of fun from it. Okay, months of fun.
The only thing lacking (back then) was the compiler which was a
separate product, at least I didn't have it. Looking back,
Minix 1.7 was a definite improvement if you were stuck with
286 machines like I was.
I'm writing this in Mozilla; the compilation took ~5 hours on an
Alphastation 500/500 (21164 with 8MB cache) with 512MB memory.
I still get nostalgic moments when I think about minix and xenix and
the time when I knew what every single program in /usr/bin actually was :-)
--
jht
2:29 p.m.
Jarkko Teppo wrote:
I've got Xenix 286 disks + manuals somewhere. I
bought it second-hand
in ~1992 and got many hours of fun from it. Okay, months of fun.
The only thing lacking (back then) was the compiler which was a
separate product, at least I didn't have it. Looking back,
Minix 1.7 was a definite improvement if you were stuck with
286 machines like I was.
While 86 sucked for programs more than 64k code and data,
remember for the longest time UNIX was developed on
such small systems.
I'm writing this in Mozilla; the compilation took
~5 hours on an
Alphastation 500/500 (21164 with 8MB cache) with 512MB memory.
I still get nostalgic moments when I think about minix and xenix and
the time when I knew what every single program in /usr/bin actually was :-)
Or try and find where stuff like doc's are put now days. Open source
is good but the Doc's need to be improved. Ben.
8:42 p.m.
ben franchuk wrote:
It isn't quantity, its quality - having lots of documentation is useless
if its not decent documentation.
Take the docs I have for a big company's SQL server. They say to enable
SNMP support, you click a checkbox, but there's no sign of it anywhere,
and furthermore, nothing more than the briefest of brief mentions of
what their SNMP implementation provides.
(ob-cc) My ancient BBC 'B' came with enough technical documentation to
go completely over my head about 18 years ago!
Peter.
I still get
nostalgic moments when I think about minix and xenix and
the time when I knew what every single program in /usr/bin actually
was :-)
Or try and find where stuff like doc's are put now days. Open source
is good but the Doc's need to be improved. 
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