8 Dec
2002
8 Dec
'02
11:16 a.m.
!!!!!!
No thanks.
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Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:04:52 -0800
From: shirin <shirin(a)shaw.ca>
To: William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org>
Subject: RE: AN/ UYK-20X(V)
Original purchased Price: $90,554 USD
I am selling these for $24,000 each
Following is the list of accessories:
It.
1. AN-UYK-20X(V)[PARA] Production Type 1600[PARA]Data Processing Set 1
2. SE610-AV-MMO-010 GFM Operating and Maintenance With Part List 1
3. SE610-AV-MMO-020 GFM Reference Data 1
4. SE610-AV-MMO-020 GFM Equipment Diagrams Part 1&2 1
5. SE610-AV-MMO-050 GFM Diagnostic Programs 1
6. SE610-AV-MMO-060 GFM Diagnostic Program [PARA]Listing Basic test 1
7. SE610-AV-MMO-070 GFM Diagnostic Program [PARA]Listing Basic test Special
IO 1
8. SE610-AV-MMO-080 GFM Confidence Tests 1
9. PX1302-0-6 Hardware Users Guide 8K 1
10. 7101943-02 STD Parallel Conn, Input 2U45 8
11. 7101943-03 STD Parallel Conn, Output 2U45 8
12. 7101943-05 Conn Serial 188C 6
13. 7128073-01 Maintenance Kit, Elect Equip 1
14. 7150314-01 Power Connector 60HZ 1
15. 7163304-00 Air Plenum ASSY 1
16. 7101943-06 Conn Serial RS-232C 2
60 Hz supply
Weight: 334 lb
They are complete and fully operational brand-new with military standards in
original packing.
Open to offers.
I am located in Canada and the computers are in stock Dubai, UAE
-----Original Message-----
From: William Donzelli [mailto:aw288@osfn.org]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:14 PM
To: shirin
Subject: Re: AN/ UYK-20X(V)
I have 9 brand new AN/ UYK-20X(V) in stock. Any one
interested?
Original package plus all accessories.
Yes. How much, and where are you located?
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
8 Dec
8 Dec
12:55 p.m.
New subject: AN/ UYK-20X(V) a different aspect:
Just a bit of a Thought here....
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to buy two or three of these machines -
Xmas y'know - bills to pay, relatives arriving from foriegn galaxies -
that kind of thing.
And I doubt there are any Listmembers who would wish to fork over
US$24K (obo!) for a milspec 'puter, even if it *is* new-in-the-box.
BUT: observe that there is an awful lot of 'orphanned' military
hardware, test-sets, and ground support equipment piling up out there.
With the enormous and radical changes in the HiTech infrastructure in the
last ten or fifteen years, it is becoming increasingly hard for the
Gummint to keep 'em flying (or driving, or floating..) when the Main Test
Set for your craft is based on a DG Nova 3 with special I/O cards made by
Hughes Electro-Optics in 1980 - and they made exactly 14 of those cards,
and the schematics were tossed when HE-O was shuttered, and the engineers
who worked on them are retired - not to mention who you can get to work on
the Nova itself - but still you (as Commander) have a mission to fulfill.
So, if you have run to the end of your AN/UYK spares, and three of your
six mission-critical machines are irreparably casters-up... $24K suddenly
becomes a most attractive price. Funds are transferred to Canada and the
C-130 lands in Dubhai and scoops 'em up. Problem solved....for now.
And if I was a Consultant to that poor Commander and had been looking
all over for UYKs... I'd get them all for 24K/per and charge 5K EACH just
to arrange the deal and qualify the hardware - (is it complete and
as-described?) and THEN, I'd (of course) help with the set-up and
Operational Checks, and put out any fires, step on the bugs, un-glitch the
glitches.... for yet bigger bux, and Shirin's sorta-off-topic post would
have worked out well for All Concerned, and that's what the List is for.
Instead of being scrapped, the UYKs would have been put back in service
where they belong...
So there are other aspects to Classic Computers than us Collectors,
though I know some of us don't like the intrusion of 'business' into the
'hobby'. C'est la Vie...
Cheers
Beltway Bandit
1:48 p.m.
New subject: AN/ UYK-20X(V) a different aspect:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, John Lawson wrote:
So, if you have run to the end of your AN/UYK
spares, and three of your
six mission-critical machines are irreparably casters-up... $24K suddenly
becomes a most attractive price. Funds are transferred to Canada and the
C-130 lands in Dubhai and scoops 'em up. Problem solved....for now.
Well, it's certainly a reasonable price to pay if you're the US military
and you need one of these. What I want to know, and this is perhaps
ignorance on my part of how this works wrt to these sorts of things,
exactly what are these boxes doing up for grabs on the free market in
Dubai? I mean, assuming for a moment that these are systems which could
be used as spares for gear in service--thereby justifying the quoted
price--how exactly would they end up NIB in non-US gov't hands to be
offered for sale?
I guess that'll partly be dependent on exactly what these systems are
supposed to do, and maybe they're fairly common gear.
-brian.
2:29 p.m.
New subject: AN/ UYK-20X(V) a different aspect:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Brian Chase wrote:
Well, it's certainly a reasonable price to pay if
you're the US military
and you need one of these. What I want to know, and this is perhaps
ignorance on my part of how this works wrt to these sorts of things,
exactly what are these boxes doing up for grabs on the free market in
Dubai?
"Free market" is a conjecture - there is a huge US military presence in
the Gulf, and has been for many years. Stuff gets surplused every day...
it is possible that these systems are sitting on a base somewhere, or were
purchased by the original poster and are in his warehouse there... who
knows? Its not like you're walking down the crowded market street and
suddenly come upon a stack of US Mil Computers on a blanket next to the
piles of dried chillies and freshly fried lizard-kabobs... ;}
I mean, assuming for a moment that these are systems
which could
be used as spares for gear in service--thereby justifying the quoted
price--how exactly would they end up NIB in non-US gov't hands to be
offered for sale?
Anyone who has worked in or been around the Surplus Business (as I have)
can tell you that critical Stuff ends up being surplussed all the time...
and I personally have handled several deals where the Gummint bought back
items that were sold by mistake, or were found to be neede later on.
I guess that'll partly be dependent on exactly
what these systems are
supposed to do, and maybe they're fairly common gear.
This is also true - I was just using them as a hypothetical example. In
reality, I have no idea what one is for...
Cheers
John
5:02 p.m.
New subject: AN/ UYK-20X(V) a different aspect:
Well, it's certainly a reasonable price to pay if
you're the US military
and you need one of these. What I want to know, and this is perhaps
ignorance on my part of how this works wrt to these sorts of things,
exactly what are these boxes doing up for grabs on the free market in
Dubai? I mean, assuming for a moment that these are systems which could
be used as spares for gear in service--thereby justifying the quoted
price--how exactly would they end up NIB in non-US gov't hands to be
offered for sale?
Probably just a screwup. It happens all the time in military surplus.
These were probably to be shipped back to the US and then surplussed.
Or they fell of the truck. That happens alot, as well.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
9 Dec
9 Dec
11:27 a.m.
New subject: AN/ UYK-20X(V) a different aspect:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Brian Chase wrote:
Well, it's certainly a reasonable price to pay if
you're the US military
and you need one of these. What I want to know, and this is perhaps
ignorance on my part of how this works wrt to these sorts of things,
exactly what are these boxes doing up for grabs on the free market in
Dubai?
The US military has had a base in Dubai since at least the first Gulf
fiasco.
I mean, assuming for a moment that these are systems
which could
be used as spares for gear in service--thereby justifying the quoted
price--how exactly would they end up NIB in non-US gov't hands to be
offered for sale?
Lots of US military stuff ends up on the surplus market. Computers such
as these, things like gas masks and flak jackets, shoulder-fired surface
to air missile launchers, basic stuff like that.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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2:21 p.m.
New subject: AN/UYK-20X(V) and AN/UYK-44(V) a different^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H CHEAPER aspect:
I don't know about the rest of you but I can't afford $24k for a computer! So
for the rest of us I have five UYK-20(V)s and two UYK-44(V)s. These were built by
Sperry-Rand and both have core memory and I think both are militarized versions of the
Sperry Univac. IIRC there are eight large core memory boards in the UYK and 4 or 8 large
modules of core memory in the UYK-44. A number of people E-mailed when I mentioned these a
month or two ago and said they wanted one if I was ever able to get them. I finally was
able to pick them up this morning and they're now at a warehouse in Sanford, Florida
(a dammed site closer than Dubai!) They have minor damage from being surplused (dirty,
bent switches, scratched paint, etc) and the top cover plate is missing from one of them.
All of them are complete AFIK and all the connectors appear to be intact. There are no
accessories, manuals OR WARRANTY. I'll contact everyone individually that previously
asked me about them as soon as I get them loaded onto pallets and get the weights.
They're now at an industrial warehouse and I have a forklift available to load them
onto a truck. These WILL need to go by truck. I found the weight on one and it said 205
pounds. I think I remember the weight on the other as 165 pounds. That is without a
pallet, crate, packing or padding so it will be higher before they're ready to travel.
I'm open to offers on the price ($24k would be nice, hint, hint! :-)
Joe
8 Dec
8 Dec
4:57 p.m.
New subject: AN/ UYK-20X(V) a different aspect:
So, if you have run to the end of your AN/UYK
spares, and three of your
six mission-critical machines are irreparably casters-up... $24K suddenly
becomes a most attractive price. Funds are transferred to Canada and the
C-130 lands in Dubhai and scoops 'em up. Problem solved....for now.
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