Quothe C. Murray McCullough, from writings of Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 05:24:10PM -0500: Are these stored in an area where the temperature doesn't get too cold, e.g., where there are a lot of 4-legged space heaters :-), or in a part of the barn where temperatures vary more? How do you prevent damage to the systems from rodents, dampness, birds and spiders, etc.? Hopefully these systems aren't stored near any cedar shavings used for stall bedding, as the fumes from the plicatic (sp?) acid in the cedar can damage any copper used in circuit boards, etc. Does anyone know if the abietic acid in pine shavings/dust causes similar problems? Speaking of barns, an idea just occured to me that may be helpful to those on the list who have tractor-accessible rack-mounted computers in their collections (I seem to recall that there's at least one such person this list): for installing heavyish items in racks, such as Fujitsu Eagle disk drives, I was just thinking: has anyone attempted welding something together that can attach to a tractor's hydraulics and lift items into place for safer and easier insertion in the rack, by one person? -- Copyright (C) 2002 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.