Yes . . . that's how I remember it, too. Those irritating core dumps were always recongnizable as they went through the line printer, since they sounded like a chef chopping celery. I never did get to where I could actually gain anything from a core dump. I guess it hasn't changed much, though the dumps Windows95 gives you when a process goes askew aren't as long. Dick ---------- <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>