Hi, You posted the following.... Have you had any replies from this? I know that Elan no longer produce, or even support the old programmer/copiers. I'm hopefully getting one similar in a few days, and I don't think mine's got a manual either. Did you get a manual? (electronic would be nice) Rototype -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with e-mail forwarding for only US$5.95/yr Powered by Outblaze