23 Nov
2018
23 Nov
'18
1:56 p.m.
Resend, just in case that screen-cap image attachment fails. It is also here:
http://everist.org/6F2a/cctalk_rcvd.png
Will require
some way to compare mailboxes in search of pattern in missing
emails... Which may or may not be obvious... which will lead to more
puzzles... oy maybe I should have stayed muted and let others do the
job...
Here's one check. See attached screen-cap of cctalk emails. Usually many per
day, but only one per day on the 15th & 16th Nov, none at all on the 17th.
Did the list actually go silent then? It's possible by random ebb and flow,
or maybe everyone was in shock over the awful Paradise fire death toll.
Which may be over 1000, unless a lot of people listed as missing do turn up.
Guy
23 Nov
23 Nov
2:44 p.m.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 08:56:09AM +1100, Guy Dunphy wrote:
Resend, just in case that screen-cap image attachment
fails. It is also here:
http://everist.org/6F2a/cctalk_rcvd.png
Ok, here is a c-pasted fragment from my mutt's index view, limited to
messages from cctalk & cctech (which hopefully shows what I
expect). The first column is message number in my mailbox, they are not
consecutive because in between I got messages from other mailing lists
and spammers):
3091 O Nov 13 Jon Elson via c ( 10) Re: Font for DEC indicator panels
3092 Nov 13 systems_glitch ( 60) Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad
3106 O Nov 13 Jason Howe via ( 22) Re: Swap clarification (Was: bill was my
3166 O Nov 14 systems_glitch ( 40) Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)
3173 O Nov 14 Bill Degnan via ( 48) Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)
3192 O Nov 14 Ethan Dicks via ( 28) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi
3196 O Nov 14 William Sudbrin ( 15) RE: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)
3208 O Nov 14 Eric Smith via ( 17) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi
3216 O Nov 14 allison via cct ( 70) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi
3227 Nov 14 ED SHARPE via c ( 5) The fundamental building block of modern
3229 O Nov 14 Ethan Dicks via ( 17) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi
3277 Nov 14 Kevin Bowling v ( 10) HP 88780B density
3388 O Nov 15 Noel Chiappa vi ( 19) Re: Font for DEC indicator panels
3473 O Nov 16 Andrew Luke Nes ( 75) Re: early ANSI C drafts, pre-1989 standar
3816 O Nov 18 Toby Thain via ( 39) Re: Font for DEC indicator panels
3835 O Nov 18 Jerome H. Fine ( 137) Re: RT-11 DY install
3845 O Nov 18 Michael Brutman ( 40) VCF PNW 2019: Exhibitors needed!
3887 O Nov 19 Patrick Finnega ( 6) IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter (ISA)
3889 O Nov 18 jim stephens vi ( 26) Re: IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter (ISA)
3940 O Nov 19 Jim Brain via c ( 10) IND
3944 O Nov 19 Al Kossow via c ( 20) Re: IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter (ISA)
3953 Nov 19 dwight via ccta ( 9) What is windoes doing?
3954 Nov 19 Ethan via cctal ( 11) Re: What is windoes doing?
3965 Nov 19 geneb via cctal ( 27) Re: What is windoes doing?
3989 Nov 19 Bill Degnan via ( 40) Re: What is windoes doing?
3997 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 25) Removing PVA from a CRT
3999 Nov 19 Peter Coghlan v ( 17) Re: What is windoes doing?
4041 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 50) Re: Removing PVA from a CRT
4046 O Nov 19 jim stephens vi ( 38) Re: IND
4052 Nov 19 Sean Conner via ( 19) IEFBR14 (was Re: IND)
4053 O Nov 19 Sven Schnelle v ( 17) Re: HP-Apollo 9000/425t RAM
4054 O Nov 19 Dennis Boone vi ( 14) Re: IND
4066 Nov 19 dwight via ccta ( 25) Re: What is windoes doing?
4071 O Nov 19 dwight via ccta ( 45) Re: What is windoes doing?
4083 O Nov 19 Al Kossow via c ( 12) Battery warning in Falco terminals
4088 O Nov 19 Al Kossow via c ( 16) Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals
4095 O Nov 19 Eric Smith via ( 15) Re: IEFBR14 (was Re: IND)
4100 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 32) Re: Removing PVA from a CRT
4102 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 83) Re: Removing PVA from a CRT
4103 O Nov 19 ben via cctalk ( 19) Re: IEFBR14 (was Re: IND)
4113 O Nov 19 Douglas Taylor ( 11) Missing FORRTL
4118 O Nov 19 Jon Elson via c ( 10) Re: IND
4122 O Nov 19 Kevin McQuiggin ( 16) Re: IND
A quick comparison by eye, you seem to miss for example msg no 3277
and 4083:
no 3277:
-- From: Kevin Bowling via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
-- To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
-- Subject: HP 88780B density
I have a dual density 88780B. Is it possible to upgrade to quad
density by
acquiring/swapping boards?
Or does someone have an 800bpi 9-track on SCSI Incan borrow or buy?
I have a pair of 1984 pdp11/70 UNIX SysV (R0, R1?) tapes that need to
be
archived.
Regards,
Kevin
----
and no 4083:
-- From: Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
-- To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
-- Subject: Battery warning in Falco terminals
I've been helping the MAME guys simulate a TS-2624, which is a block mode HP
emulating terminal.
I had bought this a while ago, and never dumped the firmware. Unfortunately
there is a large
NiCd battery right in the middle of the board that leaked all over. I've taken
some pictures
which are up under falco on bitsavers.
If anyone has one of these, you want to do battery mitigation ASAP. I'm in the
middle of replacing
every socket on the board since they were all within range of the leakage
corrosion.
Also, I suspect the first generation of terminals all have similar hardware with
different
firmware, so if someone has any of the other models (TS-1, etc.) we could get
them simulated
pretty easily once the firmware is dumped.
----
I have no idea why they would have got dumped. As far as I can tell,
the network guys are busy keeping the wire running, and do not care
about spam (i.e. not filtering other people's mails, they are not
being paid for this). Did it ever occured to you to be forcibly
unsubscribed from mailing list because delivering soft complained
emails minded to you could not had been delivered? Such a thing
happened to me few times, and then I discovered that particular list's
mail server was being located on Iceland (unless I am compressing old
memories). Which is rather close to Poland, but still not close enough
for touchy touchy software.
After checking traceroutes I can see ping times double while jumping
Will require
some way to compare mailboxes in search of pattern in missing
emails... Which may or may not be obvious... which will lead to more
puzzles... oy maybe I should have stayed muted and let others do the
job...
Here's one check. See attached screen-cap of cctalk emails. Usually many per
day, but only one per day on the 15th & 16th Nov, none at all on the 17th.
Did the list actually go silent then? It's possible by random ebb and flow,
or maybe everyone was in shock over the awful Paradise fire death toll.
Which may be over 1000, unless a lot of people listed as missing do turn up. from one building in Singapore to another one (maybe
not very near,
but still, this should be same city). Perhaps there are sometimes
problems with contacting your mail provider, and email goes to
redundant mail server, from where it is never delivered (for whatever
reason). And if they configured it in such a way that redundant one
drops old mails as new ones keep coming, without alerting, then this
could go on and on - once your missing mail goes off road, it can
never go back (for whatever reason) and after spending some time there
is silently dropped.
Just my wet phantasies about how such things work or might work. It
only requires one lousy admin to make it true, or a good one fired and
never to be heard from again.
Perhaps asking your ISP could give you some clues. Perhaps this is
even more horrific (micro black holes? aliens tuning in?) and wetter
than my wettest dreams.
--
Regards,
Tomasz Rola
--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... **
** **
** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com **
3:25 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 11:44:23PM +0100, Tomasz Rola wrote:
[...]
Just my wet phantasies about how such things work or
might work. It
only requires one lousy admin to make it true, or a good one fired and
never to be heard from again.
Perhaps asking your ISP could give you some clues. Perhaps this is
even more horrific (micro black holes? aliens tuning in?) and wetter
than my wettest dreams.
The huge problem with wet phantasies is that they take over and
distract the dreamer. The first thing I should have asked: is this
problem limited only to mails from cctalk? If yes, then the most
probably culprit would be list's server.
--
Regards,
Tomasz Rola
--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... **
** **
** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com **
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