Heh, I've been considering turning this 8650 hulk I know of into a VAXshelf... It'd be a great bookshelf for my gray wall ;p FYI, before the flames start, the cpu boards are 1) not in the machine, and 2) broken. I know this cuz I dug them out of a nasty container of junk at the scrap yard :( But at least the 8650 wouldn't take much juice to run, at least not compared to my 4381... Takes much less sans power supplies though! Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com