9 Jan
2003
9 Jan
'03
1:03 p.m.
Thanks for the help with the power supply for the Amstrad. I've picked up a nice unit
that, while heavy, appears to be made for the computer it's so perfectly matched. Was
that plug, that polarity, that voltage and that current a fairly common choice for a
while?
Anyway, I made a boot disk using Win98SE and the Amstrad really doesn't like it
(can't blame it) -- crashes on boot. Can anyone supply an image of a boot disk known
to work on the Amstrad? krishaven *aT* spamcop *dOt* net. TIA.
BTW: It complains about setting the time and a dead battery before looking for a system
disk. Does anyone know if its expecting me to buy 10 C cell batteries or if it's
referring to an internal battery of some kind?
Chris J.
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9 Jan
9 Jan
1:40 p.m.
Remember that the Amstrad ppc640 is a PC XT clone with double density
(not high density) floppy drives. It should boot any old version of
DOS after about 3.3, so long as it's on the proper floppy. These
things can be tricky to find these days though. If you can still
download DR.DOS 7, I know that works, since I've used it on mine.
Otherwise I'd be tempted to try FreeDOS. I'm in the same position,
though, I don't have any way of making low density 3.5 inch boot disks
for PCs anymore (unless I get busy and put my old PC back together).
-Jim Strickland
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 05:06 PM, No Junk Mail wrote:
Thanks for the help with the power supply for the
Amstrad. I've
picked up a nice unit that, while heavy, appears to be made for the
computer it's so perfectly matched. Was that plug, that polarity,
that voltage and that current a fairly common choice for a while?
Anyway, I made a boot disk using Win98SE and the Amstrad really
doesn't like it (can't blame it) -- crashes on boot. Can anyone
supply an image of a boot disk known to work on the Amstrad?
krishaven *aT* spamcop *dOt* net. TIA.
BTW: It complains about setting the time and a dead battery before
looking for a system disk. Does anyone know if its expecting me to
buy 10 C cell batteries or if it's referring to an internal battery of
some kind?
Chris J.
--------------------------------------
Protect yourself from spam,
use http://sneakemail.com
8:57 p.m.
Jim Strickland wrote:
Remember that the Amstrad ppc640 is a PC XT clone with
double density
(not high density) floppy drives. It should boot any old version of
DOS after about 3.3, so long as it's on the proper floppy. These
things can be tricky to find these days though. If you can still
download DR.DOS 7, I know that works, since I've used it on mine.
Otherwise I'd be tempted to try FreeDOS. I'm in the same position,
though, I don't have any way of making low density 3.5 inch boot disks
for PCs anymore (unless I get busy and put my old PC back together).
I've used
a PPC640 before - the drive will read 3.5" HD disks if you cover
the density select hole on the disk, reformat it to 720k and then SYS C: A:
it. MSDOS 5 works great on PPCs. DR-DOS 7 works on anything :-)
Later.
--
Phil.
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/
9:17 p.m.
Jim Strickland wrote:
Remember that the Amstrad ppc640 is a PC XT clone with
double density
(not high density) floppy drives. It should boot any old version of
DOS after about 3.3, so long as it's on the proper floppy. These
things can be tricky to find these days though. If you can still
download DR.DOS 7, I know that works, since I've used it on mine.
Otherwise I'd be tempted to try FreeDOS. I'm in the same position,
though, I don't have any way of making low density 3.5 inch boot disks
for PCs anymore (unless I get busy and put my old PC back together).
I've used
a PPC640 before - the drive will read 3.5" HD disks if you
cover
the density select hole on the disk, reformat it to 720k and then SYS C:
A:
it. MSDOS 5 works great on PPCs. DR-DOS 7 works on anything :-)
I believe this is the IBM ftp site:
ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/refdisks/
9:37 p.m.
You could goto the original source, Cliff Lawson (one of the original
Amstrad team) mantains an archive of most Amstrad software.
The ppc disks are
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/files/ppcdisks.zip
Bye,
Deano
Dean Calver,
Eclipse Studio Ltd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne M. Smith" <wmsmith(a)earthlink.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: Amstrad PPC640 part 2 (bootdisk)
Jim Strickland wrote:
Remember that the Amstrad ppc640 is a PC XT clone
with double density
(not high density) floppy drives. It should boot any old version of
DOS after about 3.3, so long as it's on the proper floppy. These
things can be tricky to find these days though. If you can still
download DR.DOS 7, I know that works, since I've used it on mine.
Otherwise I'd be tempted to try FreeDOS. I'm in the same position,
though, I don't have any way of making low density 3.5 inch boot disks
for PCs anymore (unless I get busy and put my old PC back together).
I've used
a PPC640 before - the drive will read 3.5" HD disks if you
cover
the density select hole on the disk, reformat it to 720k and then SYS C:
A:
it. MSDOS 5 works great on PPCs. DR-DOS 7 works on anything :-)
I believe this is the IBM ftp site:
ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/refdisks/
From there you can get:
3_3boot.exe 126208 08-24-95 DOS 3.3 Boot disk with maint. Files
or
5-25boot.exe 151819 08-24-95 DOS 3.3 BOOT DISK W/ MAINT. FILES
-W
10 Jan
10 Jan
1:12 p.m.
Woo-hoo!
Thanks Deano, the Amstrad boots now.
Thanks everyone for your help.
At 10/01/2003, you wrote:
You could goto the original source, Cliff Lawson (one
of the original
Amstrad team) mantains an archive of most Amstrad software.
The ppc disks are
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/files/ppcdisks.zip
Bye,
Deano
9 Jan
9 Jan
1:42 p.m.
It's expecting you to buy 10 C cell batteries, yes. And in time it
will run them down flat even if you don't use the machine as the
batteries are keeping the system clock alive.
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 05:06 PM, No Junk Mail wrote:
Thanks for the help with the power supply for the
Amstrad. I've
picked up a nice unit that, while heavy, appears to be made for the
computer it's so perfectly matched. Was that plug, that polarity,
that voltage and that current a fairly common choice for a while?
Anyway, I made a boot disk using Win98SE and the Amstrad really
doesn't like it (can't blame it) -- crashes on boot. Can anyone
supply an image of a boot disk known to work on the Amstrad?
krishaven *aT* spamcop *dOt* net. TIA.
BTW: It complains about setting the time and a dead battery before
looking for a system disk. Does anyone know if its expecting me to
buy 10 C cell batteries or if it's referring to an internal battery of
some kind?
Chris J.
--------------------------------------
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use http://sneakemail.com
1:54 p.m.
On 10 Jan 2003, No Junk Mail wrote:
Anyway, I made a boot disk using Win98SE and the
Amstrad really
doesn't like it (can't blame it) -- crashes on boot. Can anyone
supply an image of a boot disk known to work on the Amstrad?
krishaven *aT* spamcop *dOt* net. TIA.
You tried to boot Windows 98 on an Amstrad PPC640? ? ?
10 Jan
10 Jan
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1:33 p.m.
New subject: Old (5.25") PC software
Hi All,
I recently salved a whole bunch of original (PC) 5.25" disks for assorted
business and education-oriented software.
One product that featured highly and looks like the sort of thing people
might still be using is Xilinx's Xact. A huge number of disks -- looks
like lots of incremental updates. Some are still sealed in
plastic. Anyone want?
Other titles of note include:
cc:Mail
Lotus 123
Pro-Cite
Ventura Publisher
Project Scheduler 5
Quattro
Persona Logican
Da Vinci eMail
Sun PC-NFS
Ansi-Console
Softerm PC
Compaq MS-DOS 3.31
R&R Report Writer
Heaps of Microsoft stuff too. And some Nortons stuff I'm keeping.
Some disks have useful things such as serial numbers on them.
Given that I'm in Australia anyone who can convince me they're a good home
;) can have them for the cost of postage + a few percent to cope with
PayPal fees.
KrisHaven {at} SpamCop {dOt} Net
Chris J.
2:08 p.m.
New subject: Old (5.25') PC software
Chris wrote:
One product that featured highly and looks like the
sort of thing people
might still be using is Xilinx's Xact. A huge number of disks -- looks
like lots of incremental updates. Some are still sealed in
plastic. Anyone want?
XACT is potentially interesting, but unfortunately it requires a dongle.
Reportedly the dongle wasn't very sophisticated, but without a working
system to poke at with a logic analyzer, it would be harder to figure
out how to circumvent it. (Not to mention that it would be a violation
of the US DMCA.)
These days the only reason to use XACT is if you need to support designs
for the oldest Xilinx FPGAs, such as the 2000 and 3000 series. Because
of Moore's law, it is not cost effective to develop new designs with those
parts, as the newer families such as Spartan II are *much* cheaper. And
for current parts under 300K "marketing gates", you can download free
WebPack devlopment software from Xilinx. You can get a nice low cost
development board with the XC2S300E for US $179 from Tony Burch,
http://www.burched.com/
Eric
2:30 p.m.
New subject: Old (5.25") PC software
I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a copy of DOS 2.x or
3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd with the accompanying user text
book? Some of the information in those old texts is still applicable, but
can't be found anywhere...
Cheers!
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "No Junk Mail" <3sdiarftt02(a)sneakemail.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 06:34 PM
Subject: Old (5.25") PC software
Hi All,
I recently salved a whole bunch of original (PC) 5.25" disks for assorted
business and education-oriented software.
One product that featured highly and looks like the sort of thing people
might still be using is Xilinx's Xact. A huge number of disks -- looks
like lots of incremental updates. Some are still sealed in
plastic. Anyone want?
Other titles of note include:
cc:Mail
Lotus 123
Pro-Cite
Ventura Publisher
Project Scheduler 5
Quattro
Persona Logican
Da Vinci eMail
Sun PC-NFS
Ansi-Console
Softerm PC
Compaq MS-DOS 3.31
R&R Report Writer
Heaps of Microsoft stuff too. And some Nortons stuff I'm keeping.
Some disks have useful things such as serial numbers on them.
Given that I'm in Australia anyone who can convince me they're a good home
;) can have them for the cost of postage + a few percent to cope with
PayPal fees.
KrisHaven {at} SpamCop {dOt} Net
Chris J.
3:52 p.m.
New subject: Old (5.25") PC software
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a
copy of DOS 2.x or
3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd with the accompanying user text
book? Some of the information in those old texts is still applicable, but
can't be found anywhere...
There ain't no sech thing as 2.3
2.xx was only available with 3.5" support in specially modified versions
for certain specific brands of machines (usually in version 2.11). Even
the disk format isn't standardized on those.
3.20 (internally it thinks that it is three point twenty, NOT two), is the
first version that includes 3.5" support (720K) without special machine
specific modifications.
2.11 and 3.31 are only available in versions that were intended for
specific machines. 'Course in most cases, the only thing that is
different is the code in MODE.COM, and sometimes FORMAT.
If you have a machine with specific peculiarities, 3.31 is the hot setup.
11 Jan
11 Jan
4:33 p.m.
New subject: DOS 3.20
I believe DOS 3.20 is what I was looking for. It came as original software
for a Packard Bell 386/12T (don't remember the specific model name), and I
used the accompanying book to teach myself DOS programming -- back in
1991... The system had dual floppies (both sizes), a small hard drive, no
sound except for the system speaker, and one of the first mass production
.25 dpi monitors. I paid through the nose for the system at the time, but
I'd likely give an arm and a leg for that old DOS manual...
Cheers!
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:55 PM
Subject: Re: Old (5.25") PC software
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
> I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a copy of DOS 2.x
or
> 3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd with
the accompanying user
text
> book? Some of the information in those old texts
is still applicable,
but
can't be
found anywhere...
There ain't no sech thing as 2.3
2.xx was only available with 3.5" support in specially modified versions
for certain specific brands of machines (usually in version 2.11). Even
the disk format isn't standardized on those.
3.20 (internally it thinks that it is three point twenty, NOT two), is the
first version that includes 3.5" support (720K) without special machine
specific modifications.
2.11 and 3.31 are only available in versions that were intended for
specific machines. 'Course in most cases, the only thing that is
different is the code in MODE.COM, and sometimes FORMAT.
If you have a machine with specific peculiarities, 3.31 is the hot setup.
4:53 p.m.
New subject: DOS 3.20
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
I believe DOS 3.20 is what I was looking for. It came
as original software
for a Packard Bell 386/12T (don't remember the specific model name), and I
used the accompanying book to teach myself DOS programming -- back in
1991... The system had dual floppies (both sizes), a small hard drive, no
sound except for the system speaker, and one of the first mass production
.25 dpi monitors. I paid through the nose for the system at the time, but
I'd likely give an arm and a leg for that old DOS manual...
I sold a boxful of them at VCF for $1 each.
I'll take a look on Wednesday, and see if I can find any more copies.
That machine should be able to run anything from 3.20 to 6.22, and might
even be able to do Windoze95 (which wouldbe a BAD idea).
I'd recommend running DOS 6.2x
--
Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com
XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com
12 Jan
12 Jan
12:58 p.m.
New subject: DOS 3.20
Well, I have an IBM DOS 3.30 right here. Still in its original shrinkwrap.
Just how tall are you?
-Lawrence LeMay
lemay(a)cs.umn.edu
I believe DOS 3.20 is what I was looking for. It came
as original software
for a Packard Bell 386/12T (don't remember the specific model name), and I
used the accompanying book to teach myself DOS programming -- back in
1991... The system had dual floppies (both sizes), a small hard drive, no
sound except for the system speaker, and one of the first mass production
.25 dpi monitors. I paid through the nose for the system at the time, but
I'd likely give an arm and a leg for that old DOS manual...
Cheers!
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:55 PM
Subject: Re: Old (5.25") PC software
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
> I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a copy of DOS 2.x
or
> 3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd
with the accompanying user
text
> book? Some of the information in those old
texts is still applicable,
but
can't
be found anywhere...
There ain't no sech thing as 2.3
2.xx was only available with 3.5" support in specially modified versions
for certain specific brands of machines (usually in version 2.11). Even
the disk format isn't standardized on those.
3.20 (internally it thinks that it is three point twenty, NOT two), is the
first version that includes 3.5" support (720K) without special machine
specific modifications.
2.11 and 3.31 are only available in versions that were intended for
specific machines. 'Course in most cases, the only thing that is
different is the code in MODE.COM, and sometimes FORMAT.
If you have a machine with specific peculiarities, 3.31 is the hot setup.
13 Jan
13 Jan
7:13 a.m.
New subject: DOS 3.20
Lawrence
I'm just tall enough to be shrinking again... 'Happens when ya gets "over
the hill..." Anyways, what would the package be worth to you? And, does
it have the manuals? (BTW: Are you related to Gen. Curtis LeMay?)
Cheers!
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 06:01 PM
Subject: Re: DOS 3.20
Well, I have an IBM DOS 3.30 right here. Still in its
original shrinkwrap.
Just how tall are you?
-Lawrence LeMay
lemay(a)cs.umn.edu
> I believe DOS 3.20 is what I was looking for. It came as original
software
> for a Packard Bell 386/12T (don't remember
the specific model name), and
I
> used the accompanying book to teach myself DOS
programming -- back in
> 1991... The system had dual floppies (both sizes), a small hard drive,
no
> sound except for the system speaker, and one of
the first mass
production
> .25 dpi monitors. I paid through the nose for
the system at the time,
but
> I'd likely give an arm and a leg for that old
DOS manual...
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ed
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Old (5.25") PC software
>
>
> > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
> > > I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a copy of DOS
2.x
> or
> > > 3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd with the accompanying
user
> text
> > > book? Some of the information in those old texts is still
applicable,
> but
> > > can't be found anywhere...
> >
> > There ain't no sech thing as 2.3
> >
> > 2.xx was only available with 3.5" support in specially modified
versions
> > for certain specific brands of machines
(usually in version 2.11).
Even
> > the disk format isn't standardized on
those.
> >
> > 3.20 (internally it thinks that it is three point twenty, NOT two), is
the
> > first version that includes 3.5"
support (720K) without special
machine
> > specific modifications.
> >
> > 2.11 and 3.31 are only available in versions that were intended for
> > specific machines. 'Course in most cases, the only thing that is
> > different is the code in MODE.COM, and sometimes FORMAT.
> >
> > If you have a machine with specific peculiarities, 3.31 is the hot
setup.
20 Jan
20 Jan
9:01 a.m.
New subject: DOS 3.20
Lawrence
I'm just tall enough to be shrinking again... 'Happens when ya gets
"over
the hill..." Anyways, what would the package be
worth to you? And,
does
it have the manuals? (BTW: Are you related to Gen.
Curtis LeMay?)
Cheers!
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 06:01 PM
Subject: Re: DOS 3.20
> Well, I have an IBM DOS 3.30 right here. Still in its original
shrinkwrap.
Just how tall
are you?
-Lawrence LeMay
lemay(a)cs.umn.edu
> I believe DOS 3.20 is what I was looking for. It came as original
software
> > for a Packard Bell 386/12T (don't remember the specific model name),
I
> > used the accompanying book to teach myself DOS programming -- back in
> > 1991... The system had dual floppies (both sizes), a small hard
drive,
no
is
> sound except for the system speaker, and one
of the first mass
production
> .25 dpi monitors. I paid through the nose
for the system at the time,
but
> I'd likely give an arm and a leg for
that old DOS manual...
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ed
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Old (5.25") PC software
>
>
> > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
> > > I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a copy of DOS
2.x
> or
> > > 3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd with the accompanying
user
> text
> > > book? Some of the information in those old texts is still
applicable,
> but
> > > can't be found anywhere...
> >
> > There ain't no sech thing as 2.3
> >
> > 2.xx was only available with 3.5" support in specially modified
versions
> > for certain specific brands of machines
(usually in version 2.11).
Even
> > > the disk format isn't standardized on those.
> > >
> > > 3.20 (internally it thinks that it is three point twenty, NOT two),
the
> > first version that includes 3.5"
support (720K) without special
machine
> > specific modifications.
> >
> > 2.11 and 3.31 are only available in versions that were intended for
> > specific machines. 'Course in most cases, the only thing that is
> > different is the code in MODE.COM, and sometimes FORMAT.
> >
> > If you have a machine with specific peculiarities, 3.31 is the hot
setup.
13 Jan
13 Jan
9:07 a.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think). It's the
all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It should
have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a keyboard and mouse would be
nice.
Again, looking for cheap.
Thanks
Dan
danielrhicks(a)hotmail.com
9:15 a.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
Were are you located? The Goodwill here in Houston had one the other day for
$12.99 for the CPU only no KB or mouse with it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hicks" <danielrhicks(a)hotmail.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:12 PM
Subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think). It's the
all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It
should
have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a
keyboard and mouse would be
nice.
Again, looking for cheap.
Thanks
Dan
danielrhicks(a)hotmail.com
9:33 a.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
I am located in Lansing, Michigan. That sounds like a good price, I have
keyboard and mouse. Thanks for the info.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keys" <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 Model 25
Were are you located? The Goodwill here in Houston had
one the other day
for
$12.99 for the CPU only no KB or mouse with it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Hicks" <danielrhicks(a)hotmail.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:12 PM
Subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
be
I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think). It's the
all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It
should
> have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a keyboard and mouse would nice.
Again, looking for cheap.
Thanks
Dan
danielrhicks(a)hotmail.com
9:52 a.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
Daniel Hicks wrote:
I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I
think). It's the
all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It should
have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a keyboard and mouse would be
nice.
I saw some of these in Mendelson's in Dayton, Ohio in about 1999:
http://www.meci.com/
Wanted to bring one back with me, because they were never sold by
IBM in the UK. But it just wasn't feasible.
Again, looking for cheap.
Can't remember the price.
--
John Honniball
coredump(a)gifford.co.uk
10:13 a.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Daniel Hicks wrote:
I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I
think). It's the
all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It should
have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a keyboard and mouse would be
nice.
I have a pair. Heavy, in decent shape (not 100% original screws, but 90%
are). Any particular reason you are looking for one? These machines are
8086s with 512K of RAM, and 720K floppy drives. They shipped with 83-key
keyboards to the best of my knowledge, but I haven't seen any in a good
long while.
Anyone want a pair of Model 80s? ;-)
I don't know what it would cost to pack and ship these two; I wouldn't be
asking any money for them, just to be rid of them. I have serial terminals
now and don't really have a need for the PS/2s.
(They drop packets like crazy if you use them as network terminals.)
--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <kris(a)nospam.catonic.net> TGIFreeBSD IM: 'KrisBSD'
"BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!"
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10:24 a.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
Well, I would only need one. The better of the two. Could you see how much
it would cost to ship it to Lansing, Michigan? Zip code - 48912.
I have several Model 60's and 80's so do not need those. I used to use
these in high school, and am looking to put together a small collection of
IBM computers from that time. I already have a couple of other desktop
model 25's. I even have an original PC and PCjr which was my first
computer. Why am I interested? Nostalgic reasons only, nothing more.
I am certainly interested if you could tell me the cost of shipping to
48912.
Thanks much,
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kris Kirby" <kris(a)catonic.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 Model 25
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Daniel Hicks wrote:
> I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think). It's the
> all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It
should
> have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a
keyboard and mouse would
be
nice.
I have a pair. Heavy, in decent shape (not 100% original screws, but 90%
are). Any particular reason you are looking for one? These machines are
8086s with 512K of RAM, and 720K floppy drives. They shipped with 83-key
keyboards to the best of my knowledge, but I haven't seen any in a good
long while.
Anyone want a pair of Model 80s? ;-)
I don't know what it would cost to pack and ship these two; I wouldn't be
asking any money for them, just to be rid of them. I have serial terminals
now and don't really have a need for the PS/2s.
(They drop packets like crazy if you use them as network terminals.)
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New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
Thanks, I am quite familiar with them. In my high school I was in charging
of maintaining the ten that we had in a small computer lab. If I recall,
they had 20-MB hard drives and a single 720-k floppy drive. we used DOS and
WordPerfect 5.1 on them. The school gave them all to me after I graduated,
and like a fool I trashed them (along with 10 model 80's, and 10 old Zenith
machines) Now nostalgia is setting in and I would like to get my hands on
one again.
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 Model 25
I am looking
for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think).
... Again, looking for cheap.
Be prepared. Typically 25's are 8086 with no hard drive.
The options you want probably existed but would make
the model considerably rarer.
John A.
12:32 p.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
I owned a model 25 a number of years ago. This one actually had a 30MB
HDD that used a seperate controller. I also had an 8-slot ISA expansion
box from a comapny called Pacific Coast Horizons (PCH, I think that was
the name of the outfit). Also had an NEC CDR-72 single speed CD-ROM
(SCSI) and an MPU-401/MT-32 setup.
Jeff
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 16:38, Daniel Hicks wrote:
Thanks, I am quite familiar with them. In my high school I was in charging
of maintaining the ten that we had in a small computer lab. If I recall,
they had 20-MB hard drives and a single 720-k floppy drive. we used DOS and
WordPerfect 5.1 on them. The school gave them all to me after I graduated,
and like a fool I trashed them (along with 10 model 80's, and 10 old Zenith
machines) Now nostalgia is setting in and I would like to get my hands on
one again.
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 Model 25
> > I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think).
> > ... Again, looking for cheap.
>
> Be prepared. Typically 25's are 8086 with no hard drive.
> The options you want probably existed but would make
> the model considerably rarer.
>
> John A.
>
7 p.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
I'm a heavy IBM collector, altho mainly MCA machines. I
have several PCs, XTs, ATs, PCjrs, 2011, 2021, 2023,
and 2033s and IBM monitors and keyboards. To me the
model 25s have always been one of IBM failures, unlike
the 30 and 286 30s, and I have never gone out of my way
to acquire one. Everything I have read about them has
been trouble and too little too late. What is this upsurge
of interest with them ? Simply because they were an all-
in one machine ? Then I would posit the 20xx line which
like some Amstrads had electronics which wouldn't work
unless you had the whole unit. And of course the many
other all-in-ones like the PET or H-89 or many others.
It was a design that had long been dead.
Lawrence
On 13 Jan 2003, , Jeffrey H. Ingber wrote:
I owned a model 25 a number of years ago. This one
actually
had a 30MB HDD that used a seperate controller. I also had
an 8-slot ISA expansion box from a comapny called Pacific
Coast Horizons (PCH, I think that was the name of the
outfit). Also had an NEC CDR-72 single speed CD-ROM (SCSI)
and an MPU-401/MT-32 setup.
Jeff
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 16:38, Daniel Hicks wrote:
lgwalker@ mts.net
Thanks, I am quite familiar with them. In my high school
I was in charging of maintaining the ten that we had in a
small computer lab. If I recall, they had 20-MB hard
drives and a single 720-k floppy drive. we used DOS and
WordPerfect 5.1 on them. The school gave them all to me
after I graduated, and like a fool I trashed them (along
with 10 model 80's, and 10 old Zenith machines) Now
nostalgia is setting in and I would like to get my hands
on one again.
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 Model 25
> > I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I
> > think). ... Again, looking for cheap.
>
> Be prepared. Typically 25's are 8086 with no hard
> drive. The options you want probably existed but would
> make the model considerably rarer.
>
> John A.
>
7:14 p.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 01:04, Lawrence Walker wrote:
What is this upsurge
of interest with them ? Simply because they were an
all-
in one machine ? Then I would posit the 20xx line which
like some Amstrads had electronics which wouldn't work
unless you had the whole unit. And of course the many
other all-in-ones like the PET or H-89 or many others.
It was a design that had long been dead.
I assume this vitriol was aimed at myself since my reply is quoted
below. The interest of the original poster stems from his previous
encounter with the machine - not unlike many other machines which are
collected simply out of nostalgia.
I just though I'd share my setup for the very reason mentioned above.
No more, no less.
Jeff
Lawrence
On 13 Jan 2003, , Jeffrey H. Ingber wrote:
I owned a model 25 a number of years ago. This
one actually
had a 30MB HDD that used a seperate controller. I also had
an 8-slot ISA expansion box from a comapny called Pacific
Coast Horizons (PCH, I think that was the name of the
outfit). Also had an NEC CDR-72 single speed CD-ROM (SCSI)
and an MPU-401/MT-32 setup.
Jeff
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 16:38, Daniel Hicks wrote:
lgwalker@ mts.net
Thanks, I am quite familiar with them. In my high school
I was in charging of maintaining the ten that we had in a
small computer lab. If I recall, they had 20-MB hard
drives and a single 720-k floppy drive. we used DOS and
WordPerfect 5.1 on them. The school gave them all to me
after I graduated, and like a fool I trashed them (along
with 10 model 80's, and 10 old Zenith machines) Now
nostalgia is setting in and I would like to get my hands
on one again.
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 Model 25
> > I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I
> > think). ... Again, looking for cheap.
>
> Be prepared. Typically 25's are 8086 with no hard
> drive. The options you want probably existed but would
> make the model considerably rarer.
>
> John A.
>
14 Jan
14 Jan
8:13 a.m.
New subject: IBM PS/2 Model 25
There were versions with 8086, with 80286, 80386 (rarer than the
previous two), and 80486 (never released, but you can still find them if
you look hard enough). I have a 25XP-486 upgraded with an Evergreen AMD
486-133. It rocks.
Peace... Sridhar
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Allain wrote:
I am looking
for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think).
... Again, looking for cheap.
Be prepared. Typically 25's are 8086 with no hard drive.
The options you want probably existed but would make
the model considerably rarer.
John A.
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