10 Dec
2004
10 Dec
'04
11:09 a.m.
From: "Tom Peters"
<tpeters(a)mixcom.com>
There was an attempt to "simplify" connection of multiple floppy drives
(meaning TWO) at one time by adding a "twist" to the cable-- some
conductors in the ribbon are cut out and reversed, which is a sort of
"cable select" for floppy drives.
I seem to recall in this case that one would jumper both drives as drive A
in such a case, or as DS0.
Stupid idea. Use a straight thru floppy cable and jumper one for DS0 and
one for DS1. We get it.
If you intermingle the two drive select ideas you may have problems where
both or niether drives light up and niether can read.
---snip---
Hi
As I recall, the two drives with the twist were actually
DS0 and DS2 as seen by the controller. If using a straight
cable, one had to skip DS1.
Dwight
10 Dec
10 Dec
11:18 a.m.
Is there anyway that it can be attached external to the PC through serial,
parallel or USB ports
12:30 p.m.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Gene Ehrich wrote:
Is there anyway that it can be attached external to
the PC through serial,
parallel or USB ports
Microsolutions (DeKalb? IL, makers of "Uniform") made "Backpack"
series
that included parallel port floppy drives.
Serial port drives existed, but never became common.
It may be possible to convert some USB drives from 3.5 to 5.25.
But many of the MODERN ones have combined the USB interface with
the circuitry of the drive.
4:59 p.m.
On Dec 10, 2004, at 7:53 PM, Tom Jennings wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Fred Cisin wrote:
Well, there's always velcro...
> Is there anyway that it can be attached
external to the PC through
> serial,
> parallel or USB ports
Duct tape works, but it gets gummy with time and the drive falls off.
11 Dec
11 Dec
3:29 a.m.
At 08:53 PM 12/10/2004, you wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Fred Cisin wrote:
I rest assured that I'm in the presence of a trustworthy, knowing geek
if I see that their computer(s) are not closed up in cases but instead
their components are open and exposed to the fresh air, and if
some of the dangling components are held back with duct tape.
Outdoors, duct tape gum gets hard and flakes away.
- John
> Is there anyway that it can be attached
external to the PC through serial,
> parallel or USB ports
Duct tape works, but it gets gummy with time and the drive falls off. 
5:30 a.m.
At 08:29 AM 12/11/04 -0600, you wrote:
I rest assured that I'm in the presence of a trustworthy, knowing geek
if I see that their computer(s) are not closed up in cases but instead
their components are open and exposed to the fresh air, and if
some of the dangling components are held back with duct tape.
I use hot melt glue on mine. I won't get gooy and let things fall off and
it's fairly easy to remove things when you want to. I've got about six fans
mounted at critical points in mine and they're all held in with HM glue.
Also extra LED indicators brought out and stuck to the side of the case
where I can see them.
At 08:53 PM 12/10/2004, you wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Fred Cisin wrote:
>> > Is there anyway that it can be attached external to the PC through
serial,
> parallel or USB ports
Duct tape works, but it gets gummy with time and the drive falls off.
Outdoors, duct tape gum gets hard and flakes away.
And leaves a hell of a mess of dried adhesive.
Joe
- John
6:13 a.m.
At 10:30 AM 12/11/2004, Joe R. wrote:
I use hot melt glue on mine. I won't get gooy and
let things fall off and
it's fairly easy to remove things when you want to. I've got about six fans
mounted at critical points in mine and they're all held in with HM glue.
Wow, you demonstrate the other half of my theory: that there are
two kinds: some use duct tape, some use hot glue.
I've daydreamed about a rapid prototyping machine that used
relatively inexpensive hot glue sticks to create plastic 3D models.
- John
6:50 a.m.
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, John Foust wrote:
At 10:30 AM 12/11/2004, Joe R. wrote:
There are such devices though I think they use ABS plastic. Newer ones (3D
printers) seem to be using dust of some kind (starch?) with water or something
sprayed on the dust with an ink-jet head.
Peter Wallace
I use hot melt glue on mine. I won't get gooy
and let things fall off and
it's fairly easy to remove things when you want to. I've got about six fans
mounted at critical points in mine and they're all held in with HM glue.
Wow, you demonstrate the other half of my theory: that there are
two kinds: some use duct tape, some use hot glue.
I've daydreamed about a rapid prototyping machine that used
relatively inexpensive hot glue sticks to create plastic 3D models.
- John
7:34 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Jennings <tomj(a)wps.com>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: 5-1/4' drive on modern PC
Yeah, nails work better ;-)
Glen
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Fred Cisin wrote:
> > Is there anyway that it can be attached external to the PC through
serial,
> parallel
or USB ports
Duct tape works, but it gets gummy with time and the drive falls off.
10 Dec
10 Dec
12:26 p.m.
>There was an attempt to "simplify"
connection of multiple floppy drives
>(meaning TWO) at one time by adding a "twist" to the cable-- some
>conductors in the ribbon are cut out and reversed, which is a sort of
>"cable select" for floppy drives.
Several manufacturers had problems with their field dealers, such as
Computerland, being unable to properly handle things as complex as
jumpers.
>I seem to recall in this case that one would
jumper both drives as drive A
>in such a case, or as DS0.
In the case of IBM, with a twist, jumper both as DS1 (SECOND drive).
In the case of TRS80, with pins removed in connector cables, jumper all
drive positions on the drive.
Stupid idea.
Use a straight thru floppy cable and jumper one for DS0 and
one for DS1. We get it.
If you intermingle the two drive select ideas you may have problems where
both or niether drives light up and niether can read.
---snip---
Hi
As I recall, the two drives with the twist were actually
DS0 and DS2 as seen by the controller. If using a straight
cable, one had to skip DS1.
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