23 Jul
2015
23 Jul
'15
10:24 a.m.
did anyone here get this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535
I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to socal to get it.
23 Jul
23 Jul
11:15 a.m.
I spoke with the person, told him it was historic, looked up some info
on the machine and when it was produced, etc. VERY surprised it sold
for $5. Total bargain.
b
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
did anyone here get this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535
I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to socal to get
it.
--
Bill
vintagecomputer.net
11:21 a.m.
I spoke with the person, told him it was historic,
looked up some info
on the machine and when it was produced, etc. VERY surprised it sold
for $5. Total bargain.
That's what "local pickup only" will do to an auction.
There's a Vector MZ for 99 cents right now for the same reason.
Bill S.
12:30 p.m.
It was me. Despite the listing being "local pickup only" the
description notes that the seller's willing to arrange shipping (it just
won't be cheap). So I put in a lowball bid on it. Did not expect to be
the high bidder, definitely did not expect to be the only bidder.
That said, immediately after the auction ended, the seller contacted me
and explained that he'd screwed up; he's new to eBay, couldn't figure
out how to set a reserve (or an opening bid amount, apparently) and just
couldn't let the thing go for $5. Since I'm not completely heartless
(just mostly) I'm trying to work something out with him, but we'll see;
he seems to think it's worth a fortune -- I'm not so sure. (Rare
doesn't necessarily equate to worth and all that...)
If I do end up with the system, I'll dump the ROMs, etc.
- Josh
On 7/23/15 7:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
did anyone here get this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535
I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to socal
to get it.
1:45 p.m.
I told him he might get $500 in untested condition, a lot more if it
works. Video, good pics, be ready with a ship quote, etc. He may have
asked more than just me, but that is what I told him
On Jul 23, 2015 12:31 PM, "Josh Dersch" <derschjo at gmail.com> wrote:
It was me. Despite the listing being "local
pickup only" the description
notes that the seller's willing to arrange shipping (it just won't be
cheap). So I put in a lowball bid on it. Did not expect to be the high
bidder, definitely did not expect to be the only bidder.
That said, immediately after the auction ended, the seller contacted me
and explained that he'd screwed up; he's new to eBay, couldn't figure out
how to set a reserve (or an opening bid amount, apparently) and just
couldn't let the thing go for $5. Since I'm not completely heartless (just
mostly) I'm trying to work something out with him, but we'll see; he seems
to think it's worth a fortune -- I'm not so sure. (Rare doesn't
necessarily equate to worth and all that...)
If I do end up with the system, I'll dump the ROMs, etc.
- Josh
On 7/23/15 7:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
did anyone here get this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535
I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to socal to
get it.
5:03 p.m.
Just FYI -- the seller and I failed to reach an agreement; I assume this
means he'll be relisting it (hopefully with a starting bid or reserve that
matches his expectations).
- Josh
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
I told him he might get $500 in untested condition, a
lot more if it
works. Video, good pics, be ready with a ship quote, etc. He may have
asked more than just me, but that is what I told him
On Jul 23, 2015 12:31 PM, "Josh Dersch" <derschjo at gmail.com> wrote:
It was me. Despite the listing being "local
pickup only" the description
notes that the seller's willing to arrange shipping (it just won't be
cheap). So I put in a lowball bid on it. Did not expect to be the high
bidder, definitely did not expect to be the only bidder.
That said, immediately after the auction ended, the seller contacted me
and explained that he'd screwed up; he's new to eBay, couldn't figure out
how to set a reserve (or an opening bid amount, apparently) and just
couldn't let the thing go for $5. Since I'm not completely heartless
(just
mostly) I'm trying to work something out with
him, but we'll see; he
seems
to think it's worth a fortune -- I'm not
so sure. (Rare doesn't
necessarily equate to worth and all that...)
If I do end up with the system, I'll dump the ROMs, etc.
- Josh
On 7/23/15 7:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
did anyone here get this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535
I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to socal to
get it.
5:12 p.m.
That's just seller's remorse.
It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it with
eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as
bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result.
The value of it was determined. It's the $5 you were willing to pay and
that no one else was willing to pay more for it.
Just my worthless $.02
Todd
* Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> [150723 17:03]:
Just FYI -- the seller and I failed to reach an
agreement; I assume this
means he'll be relisting it (hopefully with a starting bid or reserve that
matches his expectations).
- Josh
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I told him he might get $500 in untested condition, a lot more if it
> works. Video, good pics, be ready with a ship quote, etc. He may have
> asked more than just me, but that is what I told him
> On Jul 23, 2015 12:31 PM, "Josh Dersch" <derschjo at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > It was me. Despite the listing being "local pickup only" the
description
> > notes that the seller's willing to arrange shipping (it just won't be
> > cheap). So I put in a lowball bid on it. Did not expect to be the high
> > bidder, definitely did not expect to be the only bidder.
> >
> > That said, immediately after the auction ended, the seller contacted me
> > and explained that he'd screwed up; he's new to eBay, couldn't
figure out
> > how to set a reserve (or an opening bid amount, apparently) and just
> > couldn't let the thing go for $5. Since I'm not completely heartless
> (just
> > mostly) I'm trying to work something out with him, but we'll see; he
> seems
> > to think it's worth a fortune -- I'm not so sure. (Rare doesn't
> > necessarily equate to worth and all that...)
> >
> > If I do end up with the system, I'll dump the ROMs, etc.
> >
> > - Josh
> >
> >
> > On 7/23/15 7:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> >
> >> did anyone here get this?
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535
> >>
> >> I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to socal to
> >> get it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
5:15 p.m.
That's just seller's remorse.
It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it with
eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as
bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result.
I agree. Report him.
Basic Ebay auctions are extremely easy to do - any idiot can do it.
He had six days while he could review and make sure everything was OK,
and revise the listing if and error was spotted.
--
Will
8:08 p.m.
On 07/23/2015 2:15 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
I had a buyers remorse back in 2006 where a very rare (only one or two
on the planet) vintage arcade game we were selling got something like
$4000 at the close. The buyer (call him B/R) pleaded with me to cancel
his bid as he said he accidentally typed the wrong amount in.
I agreed to cancel the auction.
The item ended up selling for around $750 to the person who was the
other bidder (call him O/B) who had bid it up to around $3995. However
O/B has since spent a fair bit of money at my shop and both participants
are nice guys.
What was interesting is the buyer (B/R) who backed out, had a garage
storage unit that he had forgotten about and the owner of the garage
contacted me after not hearing from B/R for many months sold me the
classic games at a very good price.
I ended up doing just fine as a result.
My 2 cents.
John :-#)#
That's
just seller's remorse.
It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it with
eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as
bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result.
I agree.
Report him.
Basic Ebay auctions are extremely easy to do - any idiot can do it.
He had six days while he could review and make sure everything was OK,
and revise the listing if and error was spotted.
--
Will
9:29 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:15 PM, William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com>
wrote:
Yeah, I spent some time debating that last night and this morning. Chalk
it up to me feeling charitable this week, but I felt like giving him the
benefit of the doubt on the situation, and having been there in the past
with eBay sales that don't go the way I want them to, I'm a bit empathetic
(though I didn't try to back out of the sale in those cases...).
I'm also trying to be a nicer person (look how few arguments I've gotten in
on cctalk lately! progress!) and I thought I'd give the guy a break. But
I'm still pretty ticked off about it, so maybe I'll reconsider :).
- Josh
That's
just seller's remorse.
It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it
with
eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction
results is every bit as
bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result.
I agree. Report him.
Basic Ebay auctions are extremely easy to do - any idiot can do it.
He had six days while he could review and make sure everything was OK,
and revise the listing if and error was spotted.
--
Will
24 Jul
24 Jul
1:41 a.m.
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
Within the last year or so, eBay removed the ability to report a
"non-selling seller". The only way to report a seller for this now (so
they get a "strike" on their account) is to pick up the phone and call
eBay. You have to ask (demand) to speak to someone in "Trust and Safety"
and you also have to be prepared to spend about an hour or so on hold.
That's
just seller's remorse.
It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it
with eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every
bit as bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction
result.
I agree. Report him.
Basic Ebay auctions are extremely easy to do - any idiot can do it.
He had six days while he could review and make sure everything was OK,
and revise the listing if and error was spotted.
8:26 a.m.
Within the last year or so, eBay removed the ability
to report a
"non-selling seller". The only way to report a seller for this now (so they
get a "strike" on their account) is to pick up the phone and call eBay. You
have to ask (demand) to speak to someone in "Trust and Safety" and you also
have to be prepared to spend about an hour or so on hold.
I do not know which Ebay you are calling, but the one that I call
about once a month is much faster. I am never on hold for more than
four minutes or so at most. If I am calling about a trust or safety
issue, the hold time is generally much less.
--
Will
9:59 a.m.
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
Sounds like you are doing much better than me. eBay and Paypal use an
outsourced call center company called ePerformax out of Cebu City,
Philippines. While I can get a first level rep on the phone right away,
actually getting them to transfer the call to eBay's actual Trust and
Safety group in the US can be an absolute nightmare. Apparently,
ePerformax's employees don't want to transfer a caller because it results
in them getting a low score for the call. This is also why they'll tell
you there are no managers, and if you demand one, you get Bob, Joe, Sue,
or Elvis in the cube next door.
I last contacted eBay about 3 months ago when I had a seller pull a
bait-and-switch when a tool I bid on sold for the opening bid amount. My
wait time then was pretty consistent with my prior calls to them over the
last 3 to 4 years (about a one hour call). That said, back before eBay
outsourced their call center and closed the main ones in California and
Utah, reaching an actual employee of eBay had been pretty easy.
Within the
last year or so, eBay removed the ability to report a
"non-selling seller". The only way to report a seller for this now (so
they get a "strike" on their account) is to pick up the phone and call
eBay. You have to ask (demand) to speak to someone in "Trust and
Safety" and you also have to be prepared to spend about an hour or so
on hold.
I do not know which Ebay you are calling, but the one that I call about
once a month is much faster. I am never on hold for more than four
minutes or so at most. If I am calling about a trust or safety issue,
the hold time is generally much less. 
4:14 p.m.
Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free shipping.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
Sounds like you are doing much better than me.
Power Seller Master Race.
Pfft...Nintendo forever! ;P
Just a former Power Seller here...and all I got was this lousy mug and
certificate.
25 Jul
25 Jul
11:24 a.m.
On 7/24/15 1:14 PM, pdaguytom . wrote:
Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free
shipping.
and someone bought it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281757114979
11:27 a.m.
On 7/25/15 8:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 7/24/15 1:14 PM, pdaguytom . wrote:
I've probably seen a dozen of them for sale in the 25+ years of watching
this stuff, and what I've never seen is any software for either this or the
68000 models.
Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free
shipping.
and someone bought it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281757114979
4:51 p.m.
Just came across his original listing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281747887309
Disturbingly, the ICs are pulled out of their sockets
On 7/25/15 8:27 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 7/25/15 8:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 7/24/15 1:14 PM, pdaguytom . wrote:
I've probably seen a dozen of them for sale in the 25+ years of watching
this stuff, and what I've never seen is any software for either this or the
68000 models.
Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free
shipping.
and someone bought it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281757114979
23 Jul
23 Jul
5:18 p.m.
+1; weak sauce from the seller ... he listed it and the auction ran to
completion ... It always irks me when people renege on eBay auctions.
Best,
Sean
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Todd Goodman <tsg at bonedaddy.net> wrote:
That's just seller's remorse.
It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it
with
eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as
bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result.
The value of it was determined. It's the $5 you were willing to pay and
that no one else was willing to pay more for it.
Just my worthless $.02
Todd
* Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> [150723 17:03]:
Just FYI -- the seller and I failed to reach an
agreement; I assume this
means he'll be relisting it (hopefully with a starting bid or reserve
that
matches his expectations).
- Josh
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I told him he might get $500 in untested condition, a lot more if it
> works. Video, good pics, be ready with a ship quote, etc. He may
have
> asked more than just me, but that is what I
told him
> On Jul 23, 2015 12:31 PM, "Josh Dersch" <derschjo at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > It was me. Despite the listing being "local pickup only" the
description
> > notes that the seller's willing to
arrange shipping (it just won't be
> > cheap). So I put in a lowball bid on it. Did not expect to be the
high
> > bidder, definitely did not expect to be
the only bidder.
> >
> > That said, immediately after the auction ended, the seller contacted
me
> > and explained that he'd screwed up;
he's new to eBay, couldn't
figure out
> > how to set a reserve (or an opening bid
amount, apparently) and just
> > couldn't let the thing go for $5. Since I'm not completely heartless
> (just
> > mostly) I'm trying to work something out with him, but we'll see; he
> seems
> > to think it's worth a fortune -- I'm not so sure. (Rare doesn't
> > necessarily equate to worth and all that...)
> >
> > If I do end up with the system, I'll dump the ROMs, etc.
> >
> > - Josh
> >
> >
> > On 7/23/15 7:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> >
> >> did anyone here get this?
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535
> >>
> >> I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to
socal
to
> >> get it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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