At 05:53 PM 12/10/2012, you wrote: --- HP had an early and innovative television operation. They used it to offer an extensive library of training programs to customers, as well as their own personnel. If I recall correctly, it helped communicate the "HP Way" to their far-flung divisions, around the World. In the 1972 catalog, they already had a whole library of video tape training programs. A photo there shows what looks like a Sony 1/2" reel-to-reel video recorder, like the ones which I remember seeing in my college days. Of course, the original Hewlett Packard company was very different from the modern day HP computer company. Much of the original operation was spun off as Agilent Technologies in 1999. No doubt, that is where the ghosts of Bill and Dave prefer to hang out, these days :) Sorry to go on about this side-topic but their innovative commitment to television content production is one of the (many) things which always struck me as making HP special. Steve L.