Heinz Wolter <h.wolter(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: Well, the problem is that there exists no installation procedure for loading the main system (not even the miniroot, let alone full root or /usr) from TU58s. The console TU58 is only used for the standalone boot and copy programs. To put it another way, 4.3BSD, including Quasijarus, is, has always been and will always be totally open source, and as with all open source software, you are free to do all kinds of things with it that are not officially supported. BUT, you are entirely on your own in doing so. The sl module for SLIP is not compiled into the distributed GENERIC kernel, so you can only use SLIP after you have successfully installed enough of the system to compile your own custom kernel. The same will be the case for PPP in the next release (no PPP support exists in the current QJ0c release). Also just as a clarification, Ethernet is not a supported option either for bootstrapping your first VAX. The next release will allow you to bootstrap your smaller MicroVAXen over Ethernet *from a larger VAX that has itself been bootstrapped from magtape*. In any case the first VAX at your site must always be bootstrapped from magtape. Also Ethernet bootstrap can only work on MicroVAXen, you can't bootstrap a 730 over Ethernet even if you had a larger 780 to boot from since 11/7xx and other machines in the "large VAX" category have no Ethernet boot capabilities. You really need to invest in a magtape drive. I'm sure you can buy a magtape drive + UNIBUS controller from a professional DEC dealer like Continental Computers or Keyways. If you want something smaller than a reel-to-reel drive, there is TUK50, UNIBUS TK50 controller. MS