One of the coolest moments in my life was when I met, entirely by chance, an old lady at the local hospital that was one of the early Real Programmers. She was sharing a double-bed room with my girlfriend's grandmother. I believe she said she had worked with the ENIAC, but I am not certain. She said that when she retired, video display terminals were just beginning to supplant printing terminals. There was a whole conversation in there somewhere, but unfortunately it has been forgotten in the sands of time. Nevertheless, it was a truly spiritual experience. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)subatomix.com