Lookin' for #6335 or #6365 Internal/External AS/400 P03 portable QIC 1/4" Tape cartridge
22 Oct
2013
22 Oct
'13
11:15 a.m.
Whew...
I have a P03 and can't find a suitable tape drive to connect to :(
Tried lot of drives, internal or external, but none of them was
recognized...
Does someone have a spare unit?
Thanks!
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22 Oct
22 Oct
2:35 p.m.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:15 AM, supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> wrote:
I have a P03 and can't find a suitable tape drive
to connect to :(
Tried lot of drives, internal or external, but none of them was
recognized...
I used the 7207-012 with mine successfully, they pop up on eBay. Not sure
how critical the cable is on the P03 side, but due to the physical design
on the tape drive side only limited cable options fit the deeply recessed
connector design on the back of the tape drive.
I would be keen to have another P03 if anyone has one surplus.
10:18 p.m.
Il giorno mer, 23/10/2013 alle 08.35 +1100, Nigel Williams ha scritto:
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:15 AM, supervinx
<supervinx at libero.it> wrote:
Well, I used a
7202-001 and a 7206-005, with no luck, as external
drives.
Then I tried a lot of internal drives.
Same result: the tape is unsupported.
But something is still unclear to me:
1) External tape drives must be ID #0 ?
2) Internal tape drives must be ID #1 ?
Since the SCSI connector on the back of the P03 is SCSI-68, connecting
to a Centronics-50 unit, I have to use some special cable?
I use a some adapter in the middle (SCSI3 to SCSI2, SCSI2 to
centronics), but I must rely on the 7202-001 or 7206-005 internal
termination. Someone told me that the Centronics-50 internal termination
it's not enough, because all 68 lines must be terminated, so the cable
it's critical...
Thanks!
I have a P03 and can't find a suitable tape
drive to connect to :(
Tried lot of drives, internal or external, but none of them was
recognized...
I used the 7207-012 with mine successfully, they pop up on eBay. Not sure
how critical the cable is on the P03 side, but due to the physical design
on the tape drive side only limited cable options fit the deeply recessed
connector design on the back of the tape drive.
I would be keen to have another P03 if anyone has one surplus.
23 Oct
23 Oct
7:02 p.m.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:18 PM, supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> wrote:
Well, I used a 7202-001 and a 7206-005, with no luck,
as external
drives.
Then I tried a lot of internal drives.
Same result: the tape is unsupported.
mine (being external) is set to SCSI ID #4
...it's not enough, because all 68 lines must be
terminated, so the cable
it's critical...
yes, as anyone who has played with IBM midrange quickly discovers, the
correct cables are critical.
This is the cable I have:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Cable-SCSI-2-SE-Single-Port-RISC-RS-6000-32G039…
IBM P/N: 32G0397
10:35 p.m.
Il giorno gio, 24/10/2013 alle 13.02 +1100, Nigel Williams ha scritto:
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:18 PM, supervinx
<supervinx at libero.it> wrote:
Hmmm, but this one has a SCSI2 (50pin) connector, while my P03 has
a
SCSI3 (SCSI68) connector on the back...
Did you add a SCSI50 to SCSI68 adapter or your P03 has a different
connector on the back?
I own a similar cable, but it has a VHDC connector, it's for a PS2 95,
but the termination it's the same... can't forget that ugly brick ;)
Well, I used a 7202-001 and a 7206-005, with no
luck, as external
drives.
Then I tried a lot of internal drives.
Same result: the tape is unsupported.
mine (being external) is set to SCSI ID #4
...it's not enough, because all 68 lines must
be terminated, so the cable
it's critical...
yes, as anyone who has played with IBM midrange quickly discovers, the
correct cables are critical.
This is the cable I have:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Cable-SCSI-2-SE-Single-Port-RISC-RS-6000-32G039…
IBM P/N: 32G0397
11:40 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM, supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> wrote:
oops, my mistake, sorry about that, you are quite correct 68-pin is needed.
I referenced the wrong cable, it seems I have two cables, see this
picture, the cable is the one to the right:
http://i.imgur.com/E9gFXvl.jpg
P/N is 52G0174
and looking at my notes, you are also correct the SCSI ID should be
set to #1 for external tape. I used no-additional-terminator either.
Also in my notes it seems the tape appeared as TAP02 too (TAP01 was in
the list but not detected).
IBM P/N:
32G0397
Hmmm, but this one has a SCSI2 (50pin) connector, while my P03 has a
SCSI3 (SCSI68) connector on the back...
Did you add a SCSI50 to SCSI68 adapter or your P03 has a different
connector on the back?
I own a similar cable, but it has a VHDC connector, it's for a PS2 95,
but the termination it's the same... can't forget that ugly brick ;) 
8:23 a.m.
On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Nigel Williams wrote:
I used the 7207-012 with mine successfully, they pop
up on eBay.
One thing to consider here, is that the 7207 tape drive is intended for use with RS/6000.
According to the IBM documentation, you can use a 7207 on an AS/400 but that it will load
AS/400 firmware into the drive, which will prevent it from being usable again on an
RS/6000. IOW, the RS/6000 won't load its firmware into the drive after it's been
loaded with AS/400 firmware.
ok
bear.
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until further notice
7:10 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:23 AM, r.stricklin <bear at typewritten.org> wrote:
According to the IBM documentation, you can use a 7207
on an AS/400 but that it will load AS/400 firmware into the drive..
I read that too in one of the RedBooks. I don't have any older
RS/6000s to test with but it would be interesting to confirm the
claim.
It is mentioned here:
http://dhart.no-ip.info/iseries/9401-p03%20ibm%20application%20system400%20…
9:18 p.m.
I found a screenshot I took when the 7207-012 was online on the P03:
http://i.imgur.com/AR3FbFG.png
The system date shows when the P03 was last IPL'd
4077
days inactive
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days old
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