Boat-load Free in Chicago - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

4 Jul 2007

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Subject: Re: Boat-load Free in Chicago
   From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
   Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
     To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Chris M wrote:
   the idea was that if someone reasonably close
was
 willing to grab the stuff, and perchance didn't want
 some of the items (as said they was obligated to take
 it all), those that had interest in particular pieces
 might score. Nobody said it was written in stone (that
 they would get any of it), just that it wouldn't hurt
 to express their interest... 
OK
that makes sense

   Are there any chicky-poos on this list. I had to
go
 back and change *he* to "they" for fear of offending
 the weaker sex. Wouldn't want to do that. 
Well, Allison is a woman, but I'd be scared to call her a "chicky-poo",
since she definitely does NOT seem weaker. 
Thanks Fred, never fear.  Though some may want to "check their six". ;)

Two things.

There are a few women maybe two or three on this list.  However a few
I know of are not on the list.

The reason maybe references like "chicky-poos", "skirts"!  Whoda thunk

in 2007 someone would write that!  One would hope that was said with 
a smile on that face to a friendly crowd.  ;)

Likely those women that are not on the list don't even know of it!
There is also the the kids standard that the list thing may be a 
bit 90s with PHP and Blogs replacing that old thing. ;) 

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  Seriously
 there seems to be so few gals in this hobby
 (understandably). I did catch one skirt bidding on an
 Amiga (how fitting) 1000 on one of the auction sites a
 while back. 
A lot of it is because a significant part of the motivation for this hobby
is memories of bygone days, and there were very few women involved with
computers in those days. 
Roger that.  Many women were not technical level and were there to punch 
the cards or other "more womanly" tasks. It's one of the computing dark 
chapters.  There were women in the forefront as well.  It's part 
of the not so nice general history of women in the workforce.

As to "Amiga (how fitting) 1000", I'm perplexed why a woman bidding on 
that would be fitting?  I always though Amigas were cool and out ahead 
but I have no desire for one, guess it's our history of things we worked 
with that flavors what we collect or like to play with.  I do have a 
collection of very sharp knives, humm, is that fitting?

On a more serious note there are many women in archeology and old 
computers reflect society and it's tools. So noe sould spculate that
the study of old computers, their users, companies and all the related
bits are a form of sociology or archeology.  So there is as good a 
possibility that personal "memories of bygone days" are not a factor 
but reconstructing or at least understanding some fraction of 
computings history or the technology is a sufficient reason for 
those people involved.

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 In my company, people chose their own job titles.  When
my VP (self
inflicted title) hired a woman to work in our Comdex booths, she gave
herself the job title of "bait" 
;) Obviously has a finely tuned sense of humor.  Also a great message to 
others.

Allison

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Grumpy Ol' Fred     		cisin at xenosoft.com 