Rumor has it that Mike Cheponis may have mentioned these words: [snip] [for reference inclusion] "Most" 486DX2/66's used EISA??? What's your definition of most? That book of yours has a rather skewed idea of what "most" means. Now, most "Server" 486's did have EISA AFAIK, but the server machines were an _extremely_ small portion of the total number of machines in the real world. (I actually had use of a retired Dell 486DX266 EISA low-end server. [Low-end being defined as: Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI interface, non-ECC memory...] ) Certainly a nice machine, but by no means the most feature-filled server Dell produced at the time. The company I worked for at the time had roughly 400-500 486's deployed, with 75-100 being DX33 or faster. I think 3 machines there had EISA, and were all servers - not for use as a single-user machine until replaced by a faster server. BTW, those machines worked fairly well servicing around 100 users, but only 10-15% were at their desks at any one time - the rest of the machines were logged in but idle. Of course, with a 400 user 10Mbit (non-switched) ethernet network & 4 of these servers (the 4th was a PCI P60), by the time the servers started doing real work & were slowing down, ethernet collisions pretty much ground everything to a halt. Two more PCI P60 servers replaced the 3 EISA 486's, and my employer allowed me to take one home to work on - to replace the 4Mbyte 386SX16 I was running AutoCad 12 on - and doing renders. Let's just say that 486 was an extreme improvement. ;-) (Oh, and the servers were just file-sharing servers running Netware 3.11, for reference...) Again, just my $0.02 (CDN, this time) and not worth that... Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.