6 Jul
2003
6 Jul
'03
1:58 p.m.
"Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
Interesting. I have had very odd performance with
Realtek cards on FreeBSD.
Um, you have read the comments near the head of
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_rl.c, haven't you?
-Frank McConnell
6 Jul
6 Jul
2:12 p.m.
New subject: OT: Realtek; Was Re: Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)
Frank wrote...
Um, you have read the comments near the head of
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_rl.c, haven't you?
No, I hadn't. But I have now. :) Pretty serious ripping from the guy who
wrote the driver :)
Jay West
7 Jul
7 Jul
5:48 a.m.
In message <200307062243.h66MhDCw045529(a)daemonweed.reanimators.org>
Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote:
Um, you have read the comments near the head of
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_rl.c, haven't you?
Quote:
The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is
probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible
exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master
DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance
gains that bus-master DMA usually offers.
Um.... Well, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to set fire to all the
Realtek-based NICs in the house... EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!
Later.
--
Phil.
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/
... Real techs don't lick nine-volt batteries!
6 a.m.
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 03:41:09PM +0100, Philip Pemberton wrote:
Quote:
The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is
probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible
exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master
DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance
gains that bus-master DMA usually offers.
Um.... Well, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to set fire to all the
Realtek-based NICs in the house... EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!
I had a Realtek 8139-based PCI 10/100 ethernet card in my wife's PC.
This was the only card I'd ever seen where unplugging the ethernet, then
plugging it back in, required a *reboot of the operating system* to get
TCP/IP connectivity back. I upgraded her system to XP, replaced the
Realtek card with an Intel eepro-chipset card, and it works fine now..
Bill
--
bill bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
austin, texas
11:02 p.m.
Aww. They aren't the worst cheapo card I've been forced to buy in my
career, as in they actually work, if slowly.
What do you want for ?9
Take Care,
mark
At 15:41 07/07/2003 +0100, you wrote:
In message
<200307062243.h66MhDCw045529(a)daemonweed.reanimators.org>
Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote:
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------]
Um, you have read the comments near the head of
/usr/src/sys/pci/if_rl.c, haven't you?
Quote:
The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is
probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible
exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master
DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance
gains that bus-master DMA usually offers.
Um.... Well, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to set fire to all the
Realtek-based NICs in the house... EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!
Later.
--
Phil.
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/
... Real techs don't lick nine-volt batteries! 
8 Jul
8 Jul
2:28 p.m.
New subject: OT: Realtek
?9? You're overpaying. I bought four Belkin refurbed cards for $3 each. I
use them in my old-ish machines, and are particularly nice as they have
drivers for just about every OS ever made. (OS/2, BeOS, JavaOS(!),
Solaris/X86)
As for their technical merits, I'm sure they suck real bad performance-wise,
but who cares when all I want is a fast way to get Syndicate Wars on my P-90
DR-DOS machine? :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Realtek; Was Re: Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at
Fry's in CA...)
Aww. They aren't the worst cheapo card I've
been forced to buy in my
career, as in they actually work, if slowly.
What do you want for ?9
Take Care,
mark
At 15:41 07/07/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>In message <200307062243.h66MhDCw045529(a)daemonweed.reanimators.org>
> Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote:
>
> > Um, you have read the comments near the head of
> > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_rl.c, haven't you?
>Quote:
> The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is
> probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the
possible
exception of
the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master
DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance
gains that bus-master DMA usually offers.
Um.... Well, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to set fire to all the
Realtek-based NICs in the house... EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!
Later.
--
Phil.
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/
... Real techs don't lick nine-volt batteries!
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------] 
3:33 p.m.
New subject: /35 /40/ 45 ?
Well, I'll take a chance and ask... just in case timing is right...
I'm looking for a PDP 11/35, or /40 to add to the collection. I know I
know, who isn't looking for one!
I have a few 11/23's and misc cards I might consider trading in case anyone
in Western Canada has a /35 or /40 they are looking to trade??? sell ???
or just find a good home for...
thx
rod
6:51 p.m.
New subject: /35 /40/ 45 ?
And... if someone wants to swap an 35/40/45 for my 11/23 ---SMILE... let me
know!
rod (hoping)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: /35 /40/ 45 ?
Zane wrote....
I'm not. I don't have the room :^(
I *DO* have the room, and I AM looking for a 35/40/45 *grin*.
So of someone is getting a little tight on space.....
Jay (dreaming) West
9 Jul
9 Jul
4:46 a.m.
New subject: OT: Realtek
Very true. I must have installed a hundred of them, and I think I had two
go bad. The folks who were using them would never have noticed the
difference -- all they were doing was sharing a few word documents, and
downloading rafts of pornography on company time...
What is Syndicate Wars? Sounds familiar? Sounds interesting...
Take Care,
Mark
At 12:44 08/07/2003 -0400, Jason McBrien wrote:
As for their technical merits, I'm sure they suck
real bad performance-wise,
but who cares when all I want is a fast way to get Syndicate Wars on my P-90
DR-DOS machine? :)
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------]
7685
days inactive
7688
days old
10 comments
8 participants
participants (8)
-
fmc＠reanimators.org -
healyzh＠aracnet.com -
jbmcb＠hotmail.com -
jwest＠classiccmp.org -
mrbill＠mrbill.net -
nedry＠mail.bedlambells.com -
philpem＠dsl.pipex.com -
rodyoung＠shaw.ca