17 Aug
1999
17 Aug
'99
6:54 a.m.
Thanks to someone on the list, I saw the url for the people making a "new"
imsai.
I couldn't help but wonder: Will the fact that you can buy a new one for
$995.00 finally curb the pricing on places like ebay for the vintage ones do
you think?
Jay West
17 Aug
17 Aug
6:54 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Chris Ruess wrote:
Thanks to someone on the list, I saw the url for the
people making a "new"
imsai.
I couldn't help but wonder: Will the fact that you can buy a new one for
$995.00 finally curb the pricing on places like ebay for the vintage ones do
you think?
Doubtful...because they'll be the "new" ones, not the "original"
ones. Not
much nostalgia in that!
-Dave McGuire
7 a.m.
I couldn't help but wonder: Will the fact that you
can buy a new one for
$995.00 finally curb the pricing on places like ebay for the vintage ones do
you think?
No, not at all. People will pay for the history.
Look at the old Western Electric 300B audio tube (valve). These things
skyrocketted to several hundred dollars each. A few years ago, Westrex
decided to tool up and make them again. They produced 300Bs that are
_identical_ to the old ones. What did the price of the old ones do? Well,
not much. A little bump, thats it.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
7:15 a.m.
Thanks to someone on the list, I saw the url for the
people making a "new"
imsai.
I couldn't help but wonder: Will the fact that you can buy a new one for
$995.00 finally curb the pricing on places like ebay for the vintage ones do
you think?
Jay West
I'm waiting to see if they follow historical precedents and collect money
for a year or so before shipping anything... I'm also waiting to see what
operating system it will run, when and which languages will be available,
and exactly how much has to be added to make a usable system. I seem to recall
when I read it yesterday, that it only comes with a pathetic amount of ram..
It would be nice if it could at least run cp/m, have Basic, FORTRAN, and Pascal
available, and have a usable bitmap graphics display. I'm also waiting
to see how the floppy and hard drive interfaces work out.
This sure seems to cost a lot for a box with no floppy or hard drive interfaces
as standard, no operating system or programing languages as standard, etc,
etc. I admit that I am intrigued by the possibilities though. If i could
buy a new paper tape reader/punch for it, i could overlook much of this...
I guess what I'm really saying is, I'm waiting to see how nostalgic the
computer will be, versis how modernistic it will be...
-Lawrence LeMay
7:32 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Lawrence LeMay wrote:
With processor cards, floppies, memory and what have you only the box
need be new. I could outfit one with a NS* CPU, FDC and even their memory
all pre 1980.
For someone doing s100 and wanting a real FP machine that would be handy.
Though I'd only want the box and PS so I could put in one of those
Godbout smart frontpannels with the octal keypad and one of their low
noise backplanes.
Allison
Thanks to
someone on the list, I saw the url for the people making a "new"
imsai.
I guess what I'm really saying is, I'm waiting to see how nostalgic the
computer will be, versis how modernistic it will be...
7:36 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
With processor cards, floppies, memory and what have
you only the box
need be new. I could outfit one with a NS* CPU, FDC and even their memory
all pre 1980.
Didn't somebody put an F-11 processor on an S100 card many years ago? Anybody
remember that? I'm sure I remember hearing something about that.
-Dave McGuire
7:45 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Dave McGuire wrote:
Didn't somebody put an F-11 processor on an S100
card many years ago? Anybody
remember that? I'm sure I remember hearing something about that.
It wasn't F11 though it could be done. It was a LSI-1 and later the T11.
Also Alpha micro used the same chipset as LSI-11 do do the AM100.
CPUs put on s100 as commercial products <non exhastive>:
8080
8085
8088
8086
80186
80286
80386
z80
z180
NSC800
Z800x
6800
6809
68000
6502
RCA1802
TI9900
LSI-11
T11
I may have forgot a few...
Allison
9:45 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
Neat...I sure wouldn't mind getting ahold of one of those. They're pretty
rare, I'd guess, no?
-Dave McGuire
Didn't
somebody put an F-11 processor on an S100 card many years ago? Anybody
remember that? I'm sure I remember hearing something about that.
It wasn't F11 though it could be done. It was a LSI-1 and later the T11.
Also Alpha micro used the same chipset as LSI-11 do do the AM100.
10:46 a.m.
It wasn't F11 though it could be done. It was a LSI-1 and later the T11.
Also Alpha micro used the same chipset as LSI-11 do do the AM100.
Neat...I sure wouldn't mind getting ahold of one of those. They're pretty
rare, I'd guess, no? 
1:01 p.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
Likely rare as the company was not a big one and
PDP-11 on s100 would be
rather unDEC in the software support. At best rt11 might have been doable
if all the device drivers were rewritten. I'd bet those that were sold
(the bulk of them) are in embedded systems.
The alpha micros were pretty popular though not cheap and they may be more
common.
AlphaMicrosystems is still around and continues to give online support of
older products. They were kind enough to respond to an e-mail of mine
asking them about a computer of theirs I'd found at a ham fest.
http://www.alphamicro.com
They seem to have changed their name to AlphaServ.com since the last time
I visited. Going to the bottom of the home page and clicking on AMOS will
take you to older support.
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9:49 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
CPUs put on s100 as commercial products <non
exhastive>:
8080
8085
8088
8086
80186
80286
80386
z80
z180
NSC800
Z800x
6800
6809
68000
6502
RCA1802
TI9900
LSI-11
T11
NS32032
NS32016
Wow, a TI9900 S-100 CPU board? I'd love to have one of those. ANd an
1802 one. KoOL!
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9:47 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Dave McGuire wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
The AlphaMicrosystems AM100. It was a two board set.
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With processor cards, floppies, memory and what
have you only the box
need be new. I could outfit one with a NS* CPU, FDC and even their memory
all pre 1980.
Didn't somebody put an F-11 processor on an S100 card many years
ago? Anybody remember that? I'm sure I remember hearing something
about that.
10:50 a.m.
Didn't
somebody put an F-11 processor on an S100 card many years
ago? Anybody remember that? I'm sure I remember hearing something
about that.
The AlphaMicrosystems AM100. It was a two board set.
9:43 a.m.
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Chris Ruess wrote:
Thanks to someone on the list, I saw the url for the
people making a "new"
imsai.
I couldn't help but wonder: Will the fact that you can buy a new one for
$995.00 finally curb the pricing on places like ebay for the vintage ones do
you think?
Maybe, maybe not. Its still not vintage in the sense that the original
IMSAI's are. It has a different power supply for one thing. The funny
thing is, he's just created another collectible computer that people will
be selling on Ebay in 10-20 years for $2-3K.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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2:53 p.m.
At 10:54 AM 8/17/99 -0500, Jay West wrote:
I couldn't help but wonder: Will the fact that you
can buy a new one for
$995.00 finally curb the pricing on places like ebay for the vintage ones do
you think?
Not likely, but another more interesting question is will the new ones
become collectible? If this venture goes bust and there are fewer than 100
"new" IMSAIs made, that will be (in 20 years) more rare than
"original"
IMSAIs where several thousand were made.
--Chuck
18 Aug
18 Aug
5:33 a.m.
New subject: imsai 2??
What's the URL? I seem to have missed it.
A
Thanks to someone on the list, I saw the url for the
people making a "new"
imsai.
I couldn't help but wonder: Will the fact that you can buy a new one for
$995.00 finally curb the pricing on places like ebay for the vintage ones do
you think?
Jay West
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New subject: imsai 2??
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Arfon Gryffydd wrote:
What's the URL? I seem to have missed it.
www.imsai.net
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