13 Dec
2017
13 Dec
'17
9:42 p.m.
On 12/13/2017 10:41 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote:
--
Sincerely,
John Welch
281-353-4706 Home
713-725-7017 Cell
:qw
What is the configuration of jumpers?
I have tried the following:
??? 1?? 2?? 3?? 4?? 5?? 6?? 7?? 8?? 9?? 10
?? --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
S1 Off On? Off Off Off Off Off Off On? Off
S1 On? On? Off Off Off Off On? Off Off Off
S1 On? On? Off Off On On? Off Off On? Off
S1 On? Off Off Off On? On? Off Off On? Off
Maybe some others, never get anything to the screen.
I have some cards that are marked TP1:Red TP2:Blk TP4:Clr
and other cards marked TP1:Red TP2:Clr TP4:Blk
I would really like to hear from someone that has it working rather than
risking popping something.
On Dec 13,
2017, at 10:34 PM, JCWelch <jcwelch at hal-pc.org
<mailto:jcwelch at hal-pc.org>> wrote:
So far nothing puts ?@?, or anything on the screen.
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Jerry Weiss <jsw at ieee.org
<mailto:jsw at ieee.org>> wrote:
According to the documentation EK-M9312-TM-002 M9312
Bootstrap-Terminator Module Technical Manual
there are two addresses to use for the Console Emulator.
165020 (765020) ?for Console with Diagnostics ?SW 1 and 7 on
165144 (765144) ?for Console w/o Diagnostics ??SW 1,5,6,9 on
The switch settings below correspond to xxx004.. which is probably
the first drive for the ROM in position 1 and does
not invoke diagnostics.
Have you tried 173000 (773000)?
Jerry
Jerry Weiss
jsw at ieee.org <mailto:jsw at ieee.org>
On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:37 PM, John Welch via
cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org>> wrote:
I have bi-directional communication from PC/Hyperterminal. ??I
forgot about having to tell HyperTerminal to echo characters
locally. Anyway, 'a' comes over as 000141 and 'A' comes over as
000101. So far so good.
However, I have not gotten "@"
CNTRL+HLT
CLR
LAD
DEP
CNTRL+INIT
CNTRL+START -> reads 000002
CNTRL+BOOT ?-> reads 165024
CLR, 165024 LAD, CTRL/START reads 165024
773024 LAD, EXAM, reads 165024
Reconfigured the switches on the M9312
???1 ?2 ??3 ??4 ??5 6 ??7 ??8 ??9 ??10
?--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
S1 Off On ?Off Off Off Off Off Off On ?Off
CNTRL+HLT
CLR
LAD
DEP
CNTRL+INIT
CNTRL+START -> reads 000002
CNTRL+BOOT ?-> Run light is on, SR Disp light is on,
CNTRL+HLT reads 173150
CLR, 165024 LAD, CTRL/START reads 165024
773024 LAD, EXAM, reads 165024
773024 LAD, 773000 DEP, BUS ERR light comes on.
Any suggestions? ?I have other M9312s I could try.
Jerry Weiss
jsw at ieee.org <mailto:jsw at ieee.org>
On 12/13/2017 12:38 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote:
Jumping over the settings. They seem OK, as you get the AB in
Hyperterm.
That 777564 shows 000200 is also correct (as I remember that): it
indicates ?transmit buffer empty?.
You can also try it the other way:
* type one character in Hyperterm
* check that 777560 has the receiver buffer full flag set (000200)
* in 777562 you will see the typed character (in octal)
773024 showing 165024 rings a bell. IIRC, 165024 is the start
address of the monitor on the M9312.
That is the PROM ?in the middle? on the board.
I think that if you enter CLR, 165024 LAD, CTRL/START you will get
the ?@?.
BTW, there is a second start address. One does some diagnostics,
the other does not.
My guess that on 773000 and you getting 773002 on the display means
that you try to boot
from a ?device? that is specified in one of the four PROMs, but the
PROM socket is empty ?
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*Van:* cctech <cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
<mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org>> namens John Welch via
cctech <cctech at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org>>
*Verzonden:* Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:23:01 PM
*Aan:* cctech at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org>
*Onderwerp:* 11/04 Project
I am back in front of the machine:
The M7856 is set thusly:
???1 ?2 ?3 ?4 ?5 ?6 ?7 ?8 ?9 10
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
S5 DN DN DN UP DN DN UP DN DN UP
S3 DN DN UP DN UP UP DN UP DN UP
S1 UP UP DN UP DN DN UP UP DN UP
S4 UP UP DN DN UP UP DN DN DN UP
S2 DN DN UP DN DN UP DN DN -- --
The M9312 is set thusly:
???1 ?2 ?3 ?4 ?5 ?6 ?7 ?8 ?9 10
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
S1 UP UP DN DN DN DN UP DN DN DN
This should be 300, 8, Odd, 1
I have what I think is null modem between the M7856 cable and a PC
running XP with Hyperterm set to 300, 8,O,1
Troubleshooting from the programmers console:
CNTRL plus HALT, no bus hang.
CLR, 777566, LAD, 101, DEP, Hyperterm shows: A
CLR, 777566, LAD, 102, DEP, Hyperterm shows: AB (the B popped up
next to
the previous A )
CLR, 777564, LAD, EXAM, display shows: 000200
CLR, 773024, LAD, EXAM, display shows: 165024
CLR, 773024, LAD, EXAM, display shows: 165024
CLR, 773000, LAD, CNTRL plus START, console says: 173002
I am thinking that the Hyperterm should be seeing an "@" and I
should be
able to boot from there.
Any thoughts?
Sincerely,
John Welch
--
Sincerely,
John Welch
281-353-4706 Home
713-725-7017 Cell
:qw
14 Dec
14 Dec
3:21 a.m.
I am confused by the flow of this thread on my phone but.there are
important things to confirm
1) the console rom does not go in any of the 4 bootstrap slots, these
should be empty for now. There is a special console rom slot. Please
confirm you have it installed.
2) 164020 should bring up the @ prompt or the 11/04 equiv. Load thus unto
memory and run from there if you want to load manually
3) the 9312 jumpers (not talking about switches) must be set for an 11/04.
They differ for various machines. Where did this 9312 come from?
4) confirm you don't have a DC LO AC LO failure.
5) the jumper switches more so pertain to the device bootstrap selection
not the console. It's confusing because they refer to the console being
on/off in relation to the device to be bootstrapped, ignore all that.
6) possibly the only switch to worry about now is the power on auto jump to
console switch. If that's on when the machine powers up it should cause the
machine to jump to the console and print a @ prompt to the termunal
assuming everything else is right.
Bill Degnan
twitter: billdeg
vintagecomputer.net
On Dec 14, 2017 12:42 AM, "John Welch via cctech" <cctech at
classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 12/13/2017 10:41 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote:
--
Sincerely,
John Welch
281-353-4706 Home
713-725-7017 Cell
:qw
What is the configuration of jumpers?
I have tried the following:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
S1 Off On Off Off Off Off Off Off On Off
S1 On On Off Off Off Off On Off Off Off
S1 On On Off Off On On Off Off On Off
S1 On Off Off Off On On Off Off On Off
Maybe some others, never get anything to the screen.
I have some cards that are marked TP1:Red TP2:Blk TP4:Clr
and other cards marked TP1:Red TP2:Clr TP4:Blk
I would really like to hear from someone that has it working rather than
risking popping something.
On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:34 PM, JCWelch <jcwelch at hal-pc.org <mailto:
jcwelch
at hal-pc.org>> wrote:
So far nothing puts ?@?, or anything on the screen.
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Jerry Weiss <jsw at ieee.org <mailto:
jsw at ieee.org>> wrote:
According to the documentation EK-M9312-TM-002 M9312
Bootstrap-Terminator Module Technical Manual
there are two addresses to use for the Console Emulator.
165020 (765020) for Console with Diagnostics SW 1 and 7 on
165144 (765144) for Console w/o Diagnostics SW 1,5,6,9 on
The switch settings below correspond to xxx004.. which is probably the
first drive for the ROM in position 1 and does
not invoke diagnostics.
Have you tried 173000 (773000)?
Jerry
On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:37 PM, John Welch via cctech <
Jerry Weiss
jsw at ieee.org <mailto:jsw at ieee.org>
cctech at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctech at
classiccmp.org>> wrote:
I have bi-directional communication from PC/Hyperterminal. I forgot
about having to tell HyperTerminal to echo characters locally. Anyway, 'a'
comes over as 000141 and 'A' comes over as 000101. So far so good.
However, I have not gotten "@"
CNTRL+HLT
CLR
LAD
DEP
CNTRL+INIT
CNTRL+START -> reads 000002
CNTRL+BOOT -> reads 165024
CLR, 165024 LAD, CTRL/START reads 165024
773024 LAD, EXAM, reads 165024
Reconfigured the switches on the M9312
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
S1 Off On Off Off Off Off Off Off On Off
CNTRL+HLT
CLR
LAD
DEP
CNTRL+INIT
CNTRL+START -> reads 000002
CNTRL+BOOT -> Run light is on, SR Disp light is on,
CNTRL+HLT reads 173150
CLR, 165024 LAD, CTRL/START reads 165024
773024 LAD, EXAM, reads 165024
773024 LAD, 773000 DEP, BUS ERR light comes on.
Any suggestions? I have other M9312s I could try.
On 12/13/2017 12:38 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote:
>
> Jumping over the settings. They seem OK, as you get the AB in
> Hyperterm.
>
> That 777564 shows 000200 is also correct (as I remember that): it
> indicates ?transmit buffer empty?.
>
> You can also try it the other way:
>
> * type one character in Hyperterm
> * check that 777560 has the receiver buffer full flag set (000200)
> * in 777562 you will see the typed character (in octal)
>
> 773024 showing 165024 rings a bell. IIRC, 165024 is the start address
> of the monitor on the M9312.
>
> That is the PROM ?in the middle? on the board.
>
> I think that if you enter CLR, 165024 LAD, CTRL/START you will get the
> ?@?.
>
> BTW, there is a second start address. One does some diagnostics, the
> other does not.
>
> My guess that on 773000 and you getting 773002 on the display means
> that you try to boot
>
> from a ?device? that is specified in one of the four PROMs, but the
> PROM socket is empty ?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> *Van:* cctech <cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org <mailto:
> cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org>> namens John Welch via cctech <
> cctech at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org>>
> *Verzonden:* Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:23:01 PM
> *Aan:* cctech at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org>
> *Onderwerp:* 11/04 Project
> I am back in front of the machine:
>
> The M7856 is set thusly:
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> S5 DN DN DN UP DN DN UP DN DN UP
> S3 DN DN UP DN UP UP DN UP DN UP
> S1 UP UP DN UP DN DN UP UP DN UP
> S4 UP UP DN DN UP UP DN DN DN UP
> S2 DN DN UP DN DN UP DN DN -- --
>
> The M9312 is set thusly:
>
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> S1 UP UP DN DN DN DN UP DN DN DN
>
> This should be 300, 8, Odd, 1
> I have what I think is null modem between the M7856 cable and a PC
> running XP with Hyperterm set to 300, 8,O,1
>
> Troubleshooting from the programmers console:
> CNTRL plus HALT, no bus hang.
>
> CLR, 777566, LAD, 101, DEP, Hyperterm shows: A
> CLR, 777566, LAD, 102, DEP, Hyperterm shows: AB (the B popped up next
> to
> the previous A )
>
>
> CLR, 777564, LAD, EXAM, display shows: 000200
> CLR, 773024, LAD, EXAM, display shows: 165024
> CLR, 773024, LAD, EXAM, display shows: 165024
> CLR, 773000, LAD, CNTRL plus START, console says: 173002
>
> I am thinking that the Hyperterm should be seeing an "@" and I should
> be
> able to boot from there.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Sincerely,
> John Welch
>
>
--
Sincerely,
John Welch
281-353-4706 Home
713-725-7017 Cell
:qw
Jerry Weiss
jsw at ieee.org <mailto:jsw at ieee.org>
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