If you've got VMS systems with valid license PAK's that you don't have hardcopies for, you should really dump the license PAK's and print them out! Then keep the printouts somewhere safe. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

I don't get this. Isn't this like walking up to a combination lock and saying "SHOW COMBINATION". Shouldn't be possible, should it? John A.

Hello- I have been pursuuing the OpenVMS license and media for about 6 months with no success. i.e. http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/freeware/ http://www.montagar.com/dfwlug/openvms-faq.html I have an AlphaStation 200/233 that I would like to install OpenVMS to. Do you have any ideas on how I get a copy through legal or hobbiest channels? Tad "Zane H. Healy" wrote: Tad Bilby Rave Computer Assoc. www.rave.net

Thanks for your quick response! I purchased a copy of: OpenVMS Alpha Operating System V7.1-2 It came with two CD's for the OS and 1 Firmware Update CD V5.3 I had already upgraded the firware to V7.0-9 from Compaq's website. I successfully expunged RedHat 5.2 and NT 4.0 and loaded VMS Unfortunaltey the seller wanted a little more than I was willing to spend for the Layered Products. I quote: 1. Package 1.$75.00 includes: My plan is to get VMS "freeware" off the net and burn to CDR. Unfortunately I don't know the format of VMS CD's. On a side note a small list of the commands I used to use to support a (large) auto supplier in the greater Detroit area. set default [-] -cd.. set def [dir] -cd \dir edit -edit show default -cd dir *% -dir *.* directory/full -dir/s *.* type/page -cat copy -cp rename -mv set file/prot -chmod set file/owner -chown delete foobar; -delete delete *.*;* -del *.* create /dir [.subdir] -md help -man page type /page nL: -cls monitor disk monitor process/topcpu show network show devices set os_type nt (at SRM) ARC <return> (at SRM) show dev d (at SRM) boot dka400 (at SRM) shutdown (at dcl prompt) <ctrl> + p = stop + a (can cont) b -flags 0,1 (at SRM) or b -flags e,1 (at SRM) mount sh sys tools set priv tools mcr authorize sys modify sh dev d sh u/f @add_user stop /id=process # sh que/all quename stop /que/reset quename start /que quename insert= "ctrl + a" thanks again- Tad "Zane H. Healy" wrote:

I finally got together with the person who had the AIM-65 stuff in his garage, and drove out this evening and spent a few hours digging out the boxes etc. Everything is now in the back of my car, and in a couple days I hope to have a good inventory. Preference goes to the people who replied to my earlier post. (if you did, and didn't just get a rough inventory from me, email me ASAP) Since a few pretty odd bits are in the batch, I will also post the inventory to the list so that hopefully every last item gets to a new home soon. among the items I didn't expect were; AIM 65 backplane chassis, and what looks like video cards bus extender cards and sockets eprom burner rust, thankfully only on a couple.

At 06:44 AM 9/10/01, you wrote: Something to note is that the VMS licenses from the Hobbyist program will work on VMS 5.x and beyond, they will _not_ work on VMS 4.x (the LMF changed significantly between 4.x and 5.x). However, since most "classic" folks will want to use VMS 5.5x (all MicroVAXen before the 4000 series) or 6.x (includes the 4000s) that should be fine. Also the older ConDists sell for reasonable amounts on Ebay. Further, there is nothing particularly "special" about the ConDist and they can be copied using a modern CD burner on a PC using an image copy and work just fine (this was how I got my first ConDist) --Chuck