4 Jul
2005
4 Jul
'05
5:37 p.m.
Wow! Somebody really wanted that one!
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5213265141&rd=1&sspagena
me=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1?
Joe
4 Jul
4 Jul
5:59 p.m.
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From: "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com>
Wow! Somebody really wanted that one!
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5213265141&rd=1&sspagena
me=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1?
Seems reasonable to me. Wish I had the kind of money and room that would
let me
collect stuff like that.
Vince
9:30 p.m.
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Oh :-(
I am already shocked about the price being higher than $1000 !!!
How should students like me be able to play with old computers if some
people thing that these machines have the value of their weight in
gold....!?!
9:36 p.m.
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I am already shocked about the price being higher than
$1000 !!!
How should students like me be able to play with old computers if some
people thing that these machines have the value of their weight in
gold....!?!
Get a Data General or an Interdata - they tend to be cheaper by a good
stretch.
I was actually thinking about starting an informal pool on the Straight-8
sale, but did not get around to it. When the next awesome machine hits
email, lets set one up.
Anyone want to venture what a PDP-1 would fetch? S/360?
William Donzelli
aw299 at osfn.org
5 Jul
5 Jul
1:15 a.m.
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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
$50K.
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I am already
shocked about the price being higher than $1000 !!!
How should students like me be able to play with old computers if some
people thing that these machines have the value of their weight in
gold....!?!
Get a Data General or an Interdata - they tend to be cheaper by a good
stretch.
I was actually thinking about starting an informal pool on the Straight-8
sale, but did not get around to it. When the next awesome machine hits
email, lets set one up.
Anyone want to venture what a PDP-1 would fetch? S/360? 
2:14 a.m.
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Vintage Computer Festival declared on Tuesday 05 July 2005 12:15 am:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
$50K.
$1M!
Wait, are we supposed to give realistic numbers?
$50k for a -1 seems high but not totally unreasonable for a machine that
is in excellent (running) condition, if it were sold through a 'real'
auction house, like Christie's, under the best possible circumstances.
$50k for an S/360 does seem too high, though, because the S/360 has a
lower 'collectability' (interest, and more of them were produced).
Price on the S/360 would probably also follow what CPU model (among
other factors). A Model 30 would likely produce nowhere near as much
interest as a Model 91, and peripherals would likely make a bigger
difference with the S/360 than they would with the -1. At best, I'd
give a number in the $10k-$20k range for a relatively complete, working,
and scratch-free S/360 setup (with the most desirable CPU and
peripherals) under the 'best conditions'.
Bear in mind, I've never actually seen a S/360 setup sell anywhere and
these are #s I've just pulled out of my ass. Your mileage may vary.
Pat
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I am
already shocked about the price being higher than $1000 !!!
How should students like me be able to play with old computers if
some people thing that these machines have the value of their
weight in gold....!?!
Get a Data General or an Interdata - they tend to be cheaper by a
good stretch.
I was actually thinking about starting an informal pool on the
Straight-8 sale, but did not get around to it. When the next awesome
machine hits email, lets set one up.
Anyone want to venture what a PDP-1 would fetch? S/360?
11:01 a.m.
New subject: WOW!!!! $15k DEC PDP-8 CLASSIC MINICOMPUTER SYSTEM DIGITAL PDP8
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
$1M!
Wait, are we supposed to give realistic numbers?
$50k for a -1 seems high but not totally unreasonable for a machine that
is in excellent (running) condition, if it were sold through a 'real'
auction house, like Christie's, under the best possible circumstances.
It's a high number but as you say, not unreasonable.
Anyone want to venture what a PDP-1 would fetch?
S/360?
$50K. $50k for an S/360 does seem too high, though, because
the S/360 has a
lower 'collectability' (interest, and more of them were produced).
How many PDP-1's have you seen around? How many IBM 360's? There are way
more PDP-1's known to still exist than IBM 360's, and there's only a
handful of PDP-1's left. The 360 also has a huge following of historical
nuts.
Price on the S/360 would probably also follow what CPU
model (among
other factors). A Model 30 would likely produce nowhere near as much
interest as a Model 91, and peripherals would likely make a bigger
difference with the S/360 than they would with the -1. At best, I'd
give a number in the $10k-$20k range for a relatively complete, working,
and scratch-free S/360 setup (with the most desirable CPU and
peripherals) under the 'best conditions'.
You may be right.
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2:31 p.m.
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On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 08:01 -0700, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
How many PDP-1's have you seen around? How many
IBM 360's? There are way
more PDP-1's known to still exist than IBM 360's, and there's only a
handful of PDP-1's left. The 360 also has a huge following of historical
nuts.
I'm not sure I like being called historical.
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The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
6:23 p.m.
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Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Vintage Computer Festival declared on Tuesday 05 July
2005 12:15 am:
Bear in mind, I've never actually seen a S/360
setup sell anywhere and
these are #s I've just pulled out of my ass. Your mileage may vary.
Pat
Let one not forget shipping costs on items.
You can't just send a S/360 thru the US POST.
10:24 p.m.
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A Model 30 would likely produce nowhere near as much
interest as a Model 91
I doubt that. A model 91 would be too much of a handfull for even most
museums.
A 30 or 40 would probably be THE machine to have.
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
6 Jul
6 Jul
8:39 p.m.
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:14:07 -0500
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
Vintage Computer Festival declared on Tuesday 05 July
2005 12:15 am:
How about an IBM 650? Are there people out there with them still
operable?
I still have one loose-leaf binder for the 650.
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
$50K.
$1M!
Wait, are we supposed to give realistic numbers?
$50k for a -1 seems high but not totally unreasonable for a machine
that is in excellent (running) condition, if it were sold through a
'real' auction house, like Christie's, under the best possible
circumstances.
$50k for an S/360 does seem too high, though, because the S/360 has a
lower 'collectability' (interest, and more of them were produced).
Price on the S/360 would probably also follow what CPU model (among
other factors). A Model 30 would likely produce nowhere near as much
interest as a Model 91, and peripherals would likely make a bigger
difference with the S/360 than they would with the -1. At best, I'd
give a number in the $10k-$20k range for a relatively complete,
working, and scratch-free S/360 setup (with the most desirable CPU and
peripherals) under the 'best conditions'.
I am
already shocked about the price being higher than $1000 !!!
How should students like me be able to play with old computers
if some people thing that these machines have the value of their
weight in gold....!?!
Get a Data General or an Interdata - they tend to be cheaper by a
good stretch.
I was actually thinking about starting an informal pool on the
Straight-8 sale, but did not get around to it. When the next
awesome machine hits email, lets set one up.
Anyone want to venture what a PDP-1 would fetch? S/360?
10:17 p.m.
New subject: WOW!!!! $15k DEC PDP-8 CLASSIC MINICOMPUTER SYSTEM DIGITAL PDP8
How about an IBM 650? Are there people out there with
them still
operable?
There are at least two in private hands. One showed up right around me,
but I did not get it. Being in IBM land, I have to think there are more
great machines sitting just within my reach.
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
7 Jul
7 Jul
12:05 a.m.
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
For certain.
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How about an
IBM 650? Are there people out there with them still
operable?
There are at least two in private hands. One showed up right around me,
but I did not get it. Being in IBM land, I have to think there are more
great machines sitting just within my reach. 
2:37 a.m.
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On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 19:39 -0500, Scott Stevens wrote:
How about an IBM 650? Are there people out there with
them still
operable?
I still have one loose-leaf binder for the 650.
I think the 'first electronic computer in New Zealand'
( http://www.ibm.com/ibm/nz/ ) still exists in NZ. I am pretty sure
that this was operating at Motat ( http://www.motat.org.nz ) in the '70s
but was subsequently reclaimed by IBM. I might be totally wrong on this
- it's on my list of things to check up on next time I'm in NZ.
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The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
7:22 a.m.
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On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 07:37 +0100, Lawrence Wilkinson wrote:
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 19:39 -0500, Scott Stevens
wrote:
It certainly wasn't on public display at MOTAT when I last went there a
couple of years ago, and that'd be the most likely place for it if it
was viewable by the public.
cheers
Jules
How about an IBM 650? Are there people out there
with them still
operable?
I still have one loose-leaf binder for the 650.
I think the 'first electronic computer in New Zealand'
( http://www.ibm.com/ibm/nz/ ) still exists in NZ. I am pretty sure
that this was operating at Motat ( http://www.motat.org.nz ) in the '70s
but was subsequently reclaimed by IBM. I might be totally wrong on this
- it's on my list of things to check up on next time I'm in NZ. 
5 Jul
5 Jul
12:22 a.m.
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Am dinsdag, 05.07.05, um 03:30 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Philipp
Hachtmann:
Oh :-(
I am already shocked about the price being higher than $1000 !!!
How should students like me be able to play with old computers if some
people thing that these machines have the value of their weight in
gold....!?!
By swapping of course. You have 3 8/L's, you could easily swap one or
two for other interesting machines.
Ebay is not the only means to get machines.
Jos
1:07 a.m.
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On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Joe R. wrote:
Wow! Somebody really wanted that one!
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5213265141&rd=1&sspagena
me=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1?
Somebody got a smoking good deal. Something like that is not likely to
come around again anytime soon.
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