Larry: Buck: < <Given your start in computing in the mid-fifties, you must now be <in your mid-sixties. I was one who started in the early 70's (as <early as my 12-th year) and am now 41. The machine was <an IBM 370/155 with 1MB of main memory, and the language was <APL (APL*PLUS from Scientific Time Sharing). I have at 46 te dubious honor of bridging both. I started however with small computers in the late 60s and the PDP-8 the whole of wich was three 6' racks was my idea of an approachable system. I was also priesthood incarnate in that for the small computer revolution I was there and part of it. To me a "big" cpu weighed about 80-110 pounds and only partially filled one of those racks. The 8008 (1972-3) and later the 8080 were part of my life as I was there on the edge pushing it. I never put a "good old" or "bad old" sticker as that was where things were and even then it was clear the target was a fast moving one. Allison