Zane H. Healy wrote: Thanks for that (and the yearly break-down). Those are some pretty healthy numbers :-) Does anyone maintain list archives in mbox format online anywhere "permanent"?

At 7:37 PM -0600 2/21/07, Jay West wrote: I was curious, and I figure I have one of the more complete collections of messages. Of course I should take the time to figure out if I am missing a chunk or not, and to better break my archives down by year. Mine are in whatever format Eudora uses with "Old Style" TOC files. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

The biggest problem I have with the list is the sheer volume of messages. My mail reader is Eudora and I do wish it could treat this list the same way that Agent or Unison treats newsgroup messages - threads sorted by dates. Or is there a way that I am missing buried in Eudora? John :-#)# At 8:32 PM -0800 2/21/07, Zane H. Healy wrote: Perhaps Tony was away that year? -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

Rumor has it that Zane H. Healy may have mentioned these words: TOC files are just "Table of Contents" files - extra personal settings, like labels, etc. The actual mail is stored in the .mbx files - gosh, rather looks like it might mean "mbox" maybe? ;-) ;-) Altho the first line (the "From _person_ _date_ _etc_" line) is a little different (The envelope sender is always "???@???" & whatnot) they're standard mbox and can be transferred to & read by any (well, any that I've used, anyway) *nix mailreader that can handle mbox... Well, just be wary of the ^M floating around; dos2unix or tr/// can help here. I use mutt, myself; it ignores them fairly well. =-=-= And... Rumor has it that John Robertson may have mentioned these words: Overall, so do I, as it seems even Thunderchicken still can't do that - it'll thread, but it won't reshuffle old threads with new messages to the top/bottom of the stack; at least as far as I've seen. Eudora does have a handy little keyboard trick with the [alt] key: If you hold [alt] and click on a name in the From: column, it will go grab all of the mail in that folder from that person (well, with the exact same From: header, anyway) and stack them (highlighted) right where you clicked without reshuffling the rest of the pack. Makes it easy to say "Boy, that 'Merch' guy is a twit. I'll get rid of everything he's ever sent. [alt] click on my name, and hit the delete key. All my blathering is now in the trash. ;-) It works the same for subject, so it'll "almost, kinda, maybe" thread stuff - except when someone changes the subject line, or if the RE: Fw: RE: FWD: RE[2]: stuff gets all wonky Eudora can't track thru it all.... Not perfect, but it's still pretty handy. Eudora is still tops with filtering - tho Thunderchicken is getting closer, finally... ;-) This is with Eudora 5.1, BTW. Speaking of mail - qmail 1.0 just turned 10 years old! It's not "kewl" so it's still offtopic (most everyone's running 1.03 anyway -- gosh - 3 minor updates in a decade! Why can't Microsoft do that??? ;-) but just one of those little interesting (to me) datapoints... HTH, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Profile, don't speculate." SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers | Daniel J. Bernstein zmerch at 30below.com |

At 11:34 AM -0500 2/22/07, Roger Merchberger wrote: Looking around for threaded mail readers I stumbled across "Sweetmail" and it is starting to look like it might fit the bill for doing this mail list. It has threading like my newsreader (Unison), that works properly - for the most part - but I still haven't figured out the bells and whistles. Need to find the command to display the mesage pane for example... Still this little freeware OS X (and earlier) Eudora 1.0 emulator (Author a big fan of the original Eudora) looks like it might be just what I need to handle large volume mail lists such as this one! http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~sweet/mail/ And the review that led to my considering this program out was: http://www.applelinks.com/mooresviews/sm21.shtml John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"