2 Sep
2004
2 Sep
'04
10:26 a.m.
On Sep 2 2004, 11:27, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 23:53 -0400, Teo Zenios wrote:
Completely off topic, but if you're into that sort of thing, you'll
enjoy "Things To Do When The Boss Is Out" at
http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~pnt1/things/THINGS2.MPE
After seeing it, my wife (yeah, the boss, she who is the very serious
and relatively senior manager of 21 staff in a certain local government
department) started a new craze. THINGS1.MPE has a more Olympic
flavour, at least if you can imagine the 100 metre hurdles translated
to an office environment.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
What's wrong with just breaking the cd in 2
and tossing it in
the trash?
If you've got a large room and a chair on wheels, put the CD on the
floor and then charge at the CD from across the room on the chair.
Great in an office environment where you can take turns. Bonus
points for not only destroying the CD but crashing through the
partition wall at the far end... 
3 Sep
3 Sep
3:03 a.m.
So we're a bunch of Hardware/Software conservationists
and up to 10% of us are dedicated to destroying old software
on CDs. A wire must be shorted out somewhere.
John A.
4:29 a.m.
>> >So we're a bunch of Hardware/Software
conservationists and
>> up to 10% of us are dedicated to destroying old software on CDs.
>>
>> Considering the number of AOL disks flaoting around out
>> there I consider that a GOOD thing!
>>
While AOL CD's are (currently) an extreme case. Think back to all of the
items that were once "all too common junk" and are now lost entirely. Did
any of us ever think the stuff would become rare?
4:48 a.m.
While AOL CD's are (currently) an extreme case.
Think back to all of the
items that were once "all too common junk" and are now lost entirely. Did
any of us ever think the stuff would become rare?
But early AOL stuff does have collectability and value. I think I finally
sold off all of mine (except for my 2 sweatshirts - they seem pretty
indestructable. I still wear them).
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
5:04 a.m.
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, David V. Corbin wrote:
This is the whole reason why I began collecting computers (even when they
were still "current").
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>> >So
we're a bunch of Hardware/Software conservationists and
>> up to 10% of us are dedicated to destroying old software on CDs.
>>
>> Considering the number of AOL disks flaoting around out
>> there I consider that a GOOD thing!
>>
While AOL CD's are (currently) an extreme case. Think back to all of the
items that were once "all too common junk" and are now lost entirely. Did
any of us ever think the stuff would become rare? 
8:30 a.m.
So we're a bunch of Hardware/Software
conservationists
and up to 10% of us are dedicated to destroying old software
on CDs.
If you were to build a device to scan a stationary piece of CD,
rather than trying to spin it, how much of the data could be
recovered from a disk with a hole drilled through it, or broken
in half?
8:42 a.m.
>>>> "Fred" == Fred Cisin
<cisin(a)xenosoft.com> writes:
> So we're a bunch of Hardware/Software
conservationists and up to
> 10% of us are dedicated to destroying old software on CDs.
Fred> If you were to build a device to scan a stationary piece of CD,
Fred> rather than trying to spin it, how much of the data could be
Fred> recovered from a disk with a hole drilled through it, or broken
Fred> in half?
Broken in half -- probably all of it, because the crack is like a
scratch and the ECC handles that. Hole -- possibly all of it, if the
hole isn't too large.
paul
11:25 a.m.
On Sep 3, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
I think this question assumes you only have half of the cd broken in
half.
If I were using that method I would certainly dispose of 1/2 of the
parts in
different places.
For a second there I thought there was a yammer coming on about even
considering the destruction of
data on cd.
>>>> "Fred" == Fred Cisin <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> writes:
> So we're a bunch of Hardware/Software
conservationists and up to
> 10% of us are dedicated to destroying old software on CDs.
Fred> If you were to build a device to scan a stationary piece of CD,
Fred> rather than trying to spin it, how much of the data could be
Fred> recovered from a disk with a hole drilled through it, or broken
Fred> in half?
Broken in half -- probably all of it, because the crack is like a
scratch and the ECC handles that. Hole -- possibly all of it, if the
hole isn't too large.
paul
11:40 a.m.
>> I think this question assumes you only have
half of the cd
>> broken in half.
>>
Then probably about half of the data....
>> If I were using that method I would certainly
dispose of
>> 1/2 of the parts in different places.
On one hand that makes it harder for a single person to gett all of the
data, but increases the odds of someone getting half of the data....
>> For a second there I thought there was a
yammer coming on
>> about even considering the destruction of data on cd.
>>
To repeat a famous quote "I Yam what I Yam...And that's all folks"...Oops
mixed two quotes....
12:34 p.m.
How effective would it be to drive your car back and forth over the CD
in question? :^)
8:47 a.m.
>> If you were to build a device to scan a
stationary piece of
>> CD, rather than trying to spin it, how much of the data
>> could be recovered from a disk with a hole drilled through
>> it, or broken in half?
>>
Quite a large percentage, depending on the size and location of the hole.
While the security of destroyed CD's typically refers to destroyed
CD-R/CD-RW protecting information that was stored on a pressed CD is MUCH
more difficult. In this case burning to slag is about the only approved
technique.
....somewhere here I have the documents for destruction of data at various
security levels, actually gets quite complex to "do it the right way"....
4 Sep
4 Sep
7:37 a.m.
Fred Cisin wrote:
If it just has a hole drilled through it, you should still be able to
read most of it on an ordinary CD reader, as long as the hole isn't
through the directory. Just don't spin it too fast (use a 1x drive).
So we're a
bunch of Hardware/Software conservationists
and up to 10% of us are dedicated to destroying old software
on CDs.
If you were to build a device to scan a stationary piece of CD,
rather than trying to spin it, how much of the data could be
recovered from a disk with a hole drilled through it, or broken
in half?
3 Sep
3 Sep
12:43 p.m.
At 10:41 AM 9/3/2004, Joe R. wrote:
Considering the number of AOL disks flaoting around
out there I consider
that a GOOD thing!
Given the rest of my packrat tendencies this shouldn't be
a surprise, but I've simply saved all my dead CD-Rs and AOL etc.
non-useful CDs. I have boxes and boxes. I thought of mixing it
with monofilament to make a huge wind-chime art structure out in
the woods. A tree full of CDs! The sun would kill the CD-Rs
quickly, and who cares about the pressed CDs.
- John
4 Sep
4 Sep
2:51 a.m.
Too bad AOL doesn't put their stuff on CD-RW (??? CD re-write-able
right?)
or can a CD-RW be read by a normal CD drive?
10:29 a.m.
On Saturday 04 September 2004 07:51, Ron Hudson wrote:
Too bad AOL doesn't put their stuff on CD-RW (???
CD re-write-able
right?)
or can a CD-RW be read by a normal CD drive?
Many CD-R drives can read CD-RW disks, provided you have UDF support.
For example, on the couple Windows-98 systems I've set up for others, I
always install Adaptec Direct CD, and then immediately uninstall it,
but keep the UDF driver installed. Afterwards, the CD-ROM drive is
able to handle CD-RW disks fine, unless the drive isn't multi-read.
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