10 Jan
2010
10 Jan
'10
5 p.m.
A friend of mine has one of these. I know nothing
about them. Just wondering
if this is likely to have some financial value. I know it depends on what
buyers are prepared to pay and all that, but just wondering as I could not
find any on ebay, so is it unusual or just uninteresting?
Not to burst any balloons, but LC IIs are not particularly interesting
Macs nor particularly rare. Some people like them for their form factor,
but I wouldn't expect it to fetch more than a few dollars unless it has
a lot of options installed.
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11 Jan
11 Jan
12:39 a.m.
I'd love to find one if its got the Apple //e board in it.
Curt
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
A friend of
mine has one of these. I know nothing about them. Just wondering
if this is likely to have some financial value. I know it depends on what
buyers are prepared to pay and all that, but just wondering as I could not
find any on ebay, so is it unusual or just uninteresting?
Not to burst any balloons, but LC IIs are not particularly interesting
Macs nor particularly rare. Some people like them for their form factor,
but I wouldn't expect it to fetch more than a few dollars unless it has
a lot of options installed.
12:57 a.m.
I'd love to find one if its got the Apple //e
board in it.
The only problem there is that most of the time they lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible).
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1:27 a.m.
At 4:57 PM -0800 1/10/10, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Personally I think this is the only reason someone would want an LC.
Zane
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I'd love
to find one if its got the Apple //e board in it.
The only problem there is that most of the time they lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible).
1:42 a.m.
I'd love to find one if its got the Apple //e
board in it.
The only problem there is that most of the time they lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible). 
3:30 p.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
That's one of the few classic machines I'm keeping, mostly because
it's tiny and a twofer.
I have an LC 475 with a SCSI-ethernet adapter, //e board with
Y-cable, and both 3.5" and 5.25" drives. Oh, and a Raritan adapter so I
can run it through my KVM.
Doc
I'd love
to find one if its got the Apple //e board in it.
The only problem there is that most of the time they lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible).
3:49 p.m.
The only
problem there is that most of the time they lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible).
That's one of the few classic machines I'm keeping, mostly because
it's tiny and a twofer.
I have an LC 475 with a SCSI-ethernet adapter, //e board with
Y-cable, and both 3.5" and 5.25" drives. Oh, and a Raritan adapter so I
can run it through my KVM. 
4 p.m.
I was kinda wanting to pick up an LCII or LCIII just to have something that I could use to
transfer disk images to the IIgs. Sounds like that's not necessary these days with the
updated ADT software though.
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To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 9:49:27 AM
Subject: Re: Apple LC2
But an LC 475 is hardly an LC II ... :) it verges on useful!
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The only
problem there is that most of the time they lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible).
That's one of the few classic machines I'm keeping, mostly because
it's tiny and a twofer.
I have an LC 475 with a SCSI-ethernet adapter, //e board with
Y-cable, and both 3.5" and 5.25" drives. Oh, and a Raritan adapter so I
can run it through my KVM. 
4:13 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:00 AM, geoffrey oltmans
<oltmansg at bellsouth.net> wrote:
I was kinda wanting to pick up an LCII or LCIII just
to have something that I could use to
transfer disk images to the IIgs. Sounds like that's not necessary these days with
the
updated ADT software though.
I just used ADTPro over a serial cable the other day to write floppy
images. I used XP and a 2gs. It works great, but it's a little slow
because it's over a serial cable. It was only a few minutes though.
I'm impatient. The LCIII with a 2e card on a network would be
considerably faster.
I believe ADTPro works over ethernet now, but ethernet boards for the
2e/2gs aren't cheap.
brian
4:04 p.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
But an LC 475 is hardly an LC II ... :) it verges on useful!
Yes, yes it does. I forgot to mention I replaced the 680LC40 with a
full 68040. HUGE difference!
Doc
The only problem there is that most of the time they
lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible).
That's one of the few classic machines I'm keeping, mostly because
it's tiny and a twofer.
I have an LC 475 with a SCSI-ethernet adapter, //e board with
Y-cable, and both 3.5" and 5.25" drives. Oh, and a Raritan adapter so I
can run it through my KVM. 
7:02 p.m.
I'd love to find one if its got the Apple //e
board in it.
The only problem there is that most of the time they lack the Y-cable,
without with the card is considerably harder to use (if not impossible). 
8:09 p.m.
On 1/11/10, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
What
does this Y-cable do (not being an Apple person...)?
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIe_Card
"An included "Y-cable" enables the attachment of up to two external
140 KB floppy disk 5.25" Drives, an 800 KB "intelligent" 3.5" Unidisk
drive, and a joystick or paddle control for use with the hard-coded
Apple IIe emulator."
If it's just a cable (no electronics in it),
can't somebody who has one
'ohm it out' and produce a wirelist? Or are the connectors unobtainable?
It's a passive cable with a DA26HD on the card end and a DE9
(joystick) and "DB19" (Apple-style external disk) connectors on the
other end.
http://www.vintagemacworld.com/lc_card/piniie.jpg
Joystick (9 pin) to IIe card connector
01 01
02 21
03 02
04 20
05 12
06 19
07 10
08 03
09 11
Disk drive (19 pin) to IIe card connector
01 04
02 04
03 13
04 14
05 no connection
06 05
07 22
08 23
09 06
10 15
11 24
12 07
13 16
14 25
15 08
16 17
17 26
18 09
19 18
While not strictly unobtanium, I wouldn't be sure where to get that
DA26HD from right now.
-ethan
8:16 p.m.
While not strictly unobtanium, I wouldn't be sure
where to get that
DA26HD from right now.
Here?
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=180-M2…
So easy :) Look for DB25HD on Digikey :D
9:41 p.m.
On 1/11/10, Alexandre Souza - Listas <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> wrote:
At least the body of the spec does acknowledge that it's a "DA" shell.
Thanks for posting that. I should probably buy a DB44HD from them
(presuming they have them - I have not yet checked) to make an
external IDE cable for my Planar 486DX100 "medical PC" (integral CPU,
2.5" drive, LCD, PCMCIA, 1x ISA bedside computer for patient
monitoring apps) - same CPU board as at least one brand of keyboard
"netstations" from the Novell era. The Planar has a DB25 for external
floppy and a DB44HD for external CD-ROM. It's easy enough to pin them
out, but was never able to make a CD-ROM cable. This machine, BTW, is
the one that uses bizzaro 2MB and 8MB 30 pin SIMMs... that's right...
they are 2-chip/4-chip SIMMs that are apparently reusing some line for
an extra row or column. Mine came with 4x 2MB SIMMs and 4x4MB
half-empty SIMMs. I'd love to find a few 8MB SIMMs for this - I have
one set I can fully populate (with the right 16Mbit SMT DRAMs - they
are pre-EDO), but I have several of these CPU boards.
Anyway... good to know that it's still easy to find 3-row HD
connectors in sizes larger than VGA connectors.
-ethan
While not strictly unobtanium, I wouldn't be
sure where to get that
DA26HD from right now.
Here?
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=180-M2…
So easy :) Look for DB25HD on Digikey :D
12 Jan
12 Jan
9:01 p.m.
While not strictly unobtanium, I wouldn't be
sure where to get that
DA26HD from right now.
Here?
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=180-M2…
So easy :) Look for DB25HD on Digikey :D
8:58 p.m.
[Cable details deleted]
While not strictly unobtanium, I wouldn't be sure
where to get that
DA26HD from right now.
It's probably easier to find than the 19 pin D for the floppy drive
(although I suppose you could wire upo a couple of 20 pin headers and
used the old Disk IIs with it). What is the name for that connector
anyhow? I've seen it called a DF19 (and a DG23 for the 23 pin version),
but I am not convinced those are the offiical names.
-tony
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