12 Dec
2012
12 Dec
'12
6:27 p.m.
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
Terry (Tez)
12 Dec
12 Dec
6:51 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:27:23PM +1300, Terry Stewart wrote:
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
Terry (Tez)
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6:53 p.m.
On 12/12/12 3:27 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
At a superficial level, done by someone who never had to
user a batch system.
- where is the JCL? You don't get a 'command prompt' from a keypunch
- all but the smallest 360s had DASD
you would have never done a data-base query to tape
and even if you did..
- a 9 track tape was MUCH faster in use than that
The operator interaction with the program was pretty weird.
Maybe whoever created this animation didn't realize you didn't
run your own program from the system console of a 360.
How would the operator know how to answer the 1,2,3 option printed out?
and
shouldn't pushing the 'reset' just ABEND with a core dump? :-)
7:17 p.m.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 12/12/12 3:27 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
At a superficial level, done by someone who never had to
user a batch system.
Yes, it's clearly done by an "artist," not a mainframe operator. That
said, the "art" is pretty well-executed. Maybe the artist can be
hired to do the front-end on a 360 simulator?
Somewhere below that piece is a link to a "Google in the BBS days"
simulation. That one fails on technicality, too, as it continues to
play the modem handshaking sound well after text has begun flowing to
the screen. Still, a fun rendition of a computing experience the
artist has likely only read about.
--
jht
7:54 p.m.
On 12/12/2012 03:53 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
The operator interaction with the program was pretty
weird.
Maybe whoever created this animation didn't realize you didn't
run your own program from the system console of a 360.
If you were working from the console, it wouldn't have been a TTY in any
case, but probably the 1052 golf ball Selectric, which has a very
different sound.
--Chuck
13 Dec
13 Dec
4:23 a.m.
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To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: What a service like Google would have looked
like in the 1960?
On 12/12/2012 03:53 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
It depends on your environment. At Newcastle University (UK) they ran MTS on
a 360/67 and on a Saturday morning I did run my own programs from the
console. I guess this was 1972 but the machine had been in place in the late
1960's.
http://history.cs.ncl.ac.uk/anniversaries/40th/images/ibm360_672/15.html
I doubt you would get the wood these days...
The operator interaction with the program was
pretty weird.
Maybe whoever created this animation didn't realize you didn't
run your own program from the system console of a 360.
If you were working from the console, it wouldn't
have been a
TTY in any
case, but probably the 1052 golf ball Selectric, which has a very
different sound.
I think in 1973 they started with remote TTYs and NUNET
--Chuck
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
12:47 p.m.
On 12/13/2012 01:23 AM, Dave wrote:
In 1966, I personally used a TTY connected to a 360/40; but that wasn't
my point--I've never seen a TTY used as a console keyboard/printer on a
S/360 machine. IBM would almost have certainly limited options to a
1050-series device for that application.
Given the 16-bit P-counter, this would have had to have been a 360/30;
the 360/20 addressing scheme allowed for no more than 15 bit addresses
and I think the actual limitation was 16K. I don't know about the
360/25, however--I never saw one.
--Chuck
If you were
working from the console, it wouldn't have been a
TTY in any
case, but probably the 1052 golf ball Selectric, which has a very
different sound.
I think in 1973 they started with remote TTYs and NUNET 
12 Dec
12 Dec
7:06 p.m.
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
On IE8, it hangs, with a gripe about IE8
(is halflife of IE versions now too short to even measure in montths?)
On Mozilla Firefox, it hangs, with a windoze default [hourglass] cursor
Surely the subject was adequately addressed in "Desk Set" (Katherine
Hepburn, Spencer Tracy)
7:10 p.m.
On 12/12/2012 5:06 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
It seems to work for me ... Mozilla Firefox 7.01 PC.
You did select a valid item search for?
Ben.
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
On IE8, it hangs, with a gripe about IE8
(is halflife of IE versions now too short to even measure in montths?)
On Mozilla Firefox, it hangs, with a windoze default [hourglass] cursor
Surely the subject was adequately addressed in "Desk Set" (Katherine
Hepburn, Spencer Tracy)
7:39 p.m.
>> http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
> On IE8, it hangs, with a gripe about IE8
> (is halflife of IE versions now too short to even measure in montths?)
> On Mozilla Firefox, it hangs, with a windoze default [hourglass] cursor
On
Wed, 12 Dec 2012, ben wrote:
It seems to work for me ... Mozilla Firefox 7.01 PC.
4.0.1
My employer owns this machine, and does not want "unauthorized"
reconfiguration. Since I will be retiring in another 1.035
semesters, I have chosen to comply, and not alter my assigned
[NOT "administrator"] "privileges"
You did select a valid item search for?
Neither browser ever got far enough to permit ANY entry.
It is showing a splash/title screen and credits, with
hourglass cursor, but not any sort of prompt.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
7:43 p.m.
On 12/12/2012 04:06 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
It runs fine on FF 16.0.2 running on Ubuntu.
It felt familiar, particularly the tape drive reels clearly showing the
effect of a vacuum column buffer. But I don't recall that TTY or 029
output was that uneven in the vertical axis.
--Chuck
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
On IE8, it hangs, with a gripe about IE8
(is halflife of IE versions now too short to even measure in montths?)
On Mozilla Firefox, it hangs, with a windoze default [hourglass] cursor 
13 Dec
13 Dec
5:28 p.m.
New subject: What a service like Google would have looked like in the 1960?
At 06:06 PM 12/12/2012, you wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
Runs great on FF 17 here, under Windoze 7.
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
On IE8, it hangs, with a gripe about IE8
(is halflife of IE versions now too short to even measure in montths?)
On Mozilla Firefox, it hangs, with a windoze default [hourglass] cursor Surely the subject was adequately addressed in
"Desk Set" (Katherine
Hepburn, Spencer Tracy)
309 . [Philosophy] Never attribute to malice that
which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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2:43 a.m.
Funny (for me).
Nostalgic and Funny (for my fellows in work, all of them programmers with
30 years of work in their shoulders).
Technically inexact but similar in aspects to our old IBM 2970 and IBM 3600
terminal operation (for all of the previous)
A real boring (for my daughter).
Artistically well solved (for my son).
Bad idea (for my Internet Explorer 8, suggesting me to change to IE9).
Not special impact (for my Google Chrome and Firefox browsers).
What's about something similar but more adjusted to reality as interface
for some emulators rounding out there ?
Regards
Sergio
2012/12/13 Terry Stewart <terry at webweavers.co.nz>
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
Terry (Tez)
11:53 p.m.
Actually it had the irony of telling me something new (guess I never searched google for
such a normal word before). I just typed amiga and let it run with it. The result was the
recent news that Amiga is porting some classic games to the blackberry tablet system.
Interesting, albeit a funny combination of bankrupt verge companies playing with
eachothers gear.
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stewart <terry at webweavers.co.nz>
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<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: What a service like Google would have looked like in the 1960?
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
Terry (Tez)
14 Dec
14 Dec
1:02 a.m.
WTF? For the, what, eight people who bought those tablets?
I'm willing to bet there are FAR more functioning Amigas out there than Blackberry
tablets.
-Dave
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On Dec 13, 2012, at 11:53 PM, barythrin at gmail.com wrote:
Actually it had the irony of telling me something new
(guess I never searched google for such a normal word before). I just typed amiga and let
it run with it. The result was the recent news that Amiga is porting some classic games to
the blackberry tablet system. Interesting, albeit a funny combination of bankrupt verge
companies playing with eachothers gear.
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: What a service like Google would have looked like in the 1960?
I found this clever and amusing. (-:
http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
Terry (Tez)
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