At 05:53 PM 11/1/98 +0000, you wrote: ebay and There are a lot of people who seriously lament the fact that they'll never be able to afford to buy a house in San Francisco. Why? Because there are a lot more people who want them then there are houses. So the prices go up. You can't fault the people who sell them for not selling them cheaper. Sure, you can lament the fact that there are more collectors out there than there are Apple I's or whatever, but it won't do you any good, and it makes no sense to chastise ebay for creating an efficient way to get those items in front of more people or sellers for using that method to get the most for their items. That's life, my friend. If you don't have the $ to buy on ebay, you can instead work a little harder and find the same things elsewhere for lower prices (our own beloved Sam is an excellent example of this.) If you've got the $, you can be lazy and just bid a zillion samolians on ebay. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/