21 Jan
2002
21 Jan
'02
10:46 a.m.
ANyone have a source on the net for a PDF manual or a spare hardcopy they'd
sell or trade for? I pick this monster up from Columbus IH sometime this
week.
12:01 p.m.
Just did a quick scan and I checked the partner site to no avail and haven't
had a long time (busy on/off) to dig on the netserver.hp.com site yet.
I have a few days, don't pick it up in Clumbus OH until Wed or Thrus anyway.
Did manage to nail another set of 2 Pentium Pro 200 cpu's though, she's
gonna be flying with a quad processor setup and (by the time I'm done) 2 gb
of RAM.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Zane H. Healy
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:21 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200
server
ANyone have a source on the net for a PDF manual or a
spare hardcopy
they'd
sell or trade for? I pick this monster up from
Columbus IH sometime this
week.
Have you checked the HP website? They seem to have amazingly good archives
of thier PC Doc's online.
Zane
1:19 p.m.
Just did a quick scan and I checked the partner site
to no avail and haven't
had a long time (busy on/off) to dig on the netserver.hp.com site yet.
http://netserver.hp.com/support/manuals.asp?pid=LXPro
I have a few days, don't pick it up in Clumbus OH
until Wed or Thrus anyway.
Did manage to nail another set of 2 Pentium Pro 200 cpu's though, she's
gonna be flying with a quad processor setup and (by the time I'm done) 2 gb
of RAM.
Sweet! What OS are you going to run? I've got a Quad PPro200 system myself
that I've been meaning to get up and running. I believe it currently has
NT4 installed, and I've been threatening to load Solaris 7 or 8 on it.
First though I want to disconnect the drive arrays so it sucks up less
power, besides I've been raiding it for drives for other, better systems.
Zane
8:39 a.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
Sweet! What OS are you going to run? I've got a
Quad PPro200 system myself
that I've been meaning to get up and running. I believe it currently has
NT4 installed, and I've been threatening to load Solaris 7 or 8 on it.
First though I want to disconnect the drive arrays so it sucks up less
power, besides I've been raiding it for drives for other, better systems.
Zane
FYI: 4 Pros 200MHz, (could be 256K or 512K), est: 40W each. Times
four, 160W at full blast.
Raided HD in bunch of 4 or 5 is NOTHING in watt output if these
drives is about 12W each.
BTW, PPro is granddaddy of PII and PIII. :-)
Cheers,
Wizard
PS: Still not conviced that PPro is "worthy" CPUs. I view it as
"bastard child" of PII, celeron is even worse.
2 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
PS: Still not conviced that PPro is
"worthy" CPUs. I view it as
"bastard child" of PII, celeron is even worse.
I hope that's a typo. I've seen PPro 200 machines smoke PII 266 & PII
300 boxen under load [Network Servers]. When you go to SMP, the
difference is even more marked. The Klamath was a dog.
Doc
9:27 a.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:00:12 -0600 (CST)
From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com>
To: Classic Computers <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
Arf, arf! :-) Anyway I understand that, but didn't you make this
fair comparsion on dual Pro and dual PII's? Remember, LX and BX
already have udma for better HD multitasking. The old pro chipset
didn't and relies on HD controller cards either SCSI ($$$) or
IDE none has udma (early ones) except for promise cards.
Cheers,
Wizard
PS: Still not conviced that PPro is
"worthy" CPUs. I view it as
"bastard child" of PII, celeron is even worse.
I hope that's a typo. I've seen PPro 200 machines smoke PII 266 & PII
300 boxen under load [Network Servers]. When you go to SMP, the
difference is even more marked. The Klamath was a dog.
Doc
2:53 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
Arf, arf! :-) Anyway I understand that, but
didn't you make this
fair comparsion on dual Pro and dual PII's? Remember, LX and BX
already have udma for better HD multitasking. The old pro chipset
didn't and relies on HD controller cards either SCSI ($$$) or
IDE none has udma (early ones) except for promise cards.
Hmmm. I wouldn't know about the udma issue. My new desktop is the
first IDE system I've had in several years. All the SMP boxen I've had
or administered were SCSI, and the only IDE PPro I've ever had aything
to do with was a Dell desktop. It was strictly an end-user box, and I
wasn't in a position to benchmark it.
I still believe Intel would have been better off developing the PPro
than going with the PII.
Doc
3:40 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
My present IBM PC Server 320 (PCI/EISA) has an IDE interface on the mobo and
works fine and dandy with HD's and other IDE devices, except that it
overrides boot from SCSI so it's turned off and all devices are SCSI
predominantly. My old Dell 4066/XE server was the same way, but IDE was slow
on it - never used it as I had plenty of SCSI devices on hand.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Doc
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 7:54 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200
serve
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
Arf, arf! :-) Anyway I understand that, but
didn't you make this
fair comparsion on dual Pro and dual PII's? Remember, LX and BX
already have udma for better HD multitasking. The old pro chipset
didn't and relies on HD controller cards either SCSI ($$$) or
IDE none has udma (early ones) except for promise cards.
Hmmm. I wouldn't know about the udma issue. My new desktop is the
first IDE system I've had in several years. All the SMP boxen I've had
or administered were SCSI, and the only IDE PPro I've ever had aything
to do with was a Dell desktop. It was strictly an end-user box, and I
wasn't in a position to benchmark it.
I still believe Intel would have been better off developing the PPro
than going with the PII.
Doc
3:42 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Doc wrote:
I still believe Intel would have been better off
developing the PPro
than going with the PII.
Isn't that what they did with the Pentium III Xeon? Which is probably a
discussion we can have in 2009.
The thing with Intel based PCs is that there's nothing about them that I
find interesting or exciting-- even the ones from the 1980s that we can
talk about. They're so commodity in nature that there's little mystery
or novelty to them. <yawn>
-brian.
4:37 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Doc wrote:
Actually I'd say that the chip that's the closest relation to the PPro, in
spite of not being based on it, is the Pentium IV.
Zane
I still believe Intel would have been better
off developing the PPro
than going with the PII.
Isn't that what they did with the Pentium III Xeon? Which is probably a
discussion we can have in 2009. 
6:55 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
Arf, arf! :-) Anyway I understand that, but
didn't you make this
fair comparsion on dual Pro and dual PII's? Remember, LX and BX
already have udma for better HD multitasking. The old pro chipset
didn't and relies on HD controller cards either SCSI ($$$) or
IDE none has udma (early ones) except for promise cards.
Too much money for SCSI? I can solve that. Go to eBay. Look in the SCSI
hard drive catagories. I once bought 8 36 GB IBM Ultrastars for $60
apiece dutch.
Peace... Sridhar
3:30 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
The Netserver runs 3 410watt supplies so I'm looking at 1200-1600 watts but
I live in one of the cheapest electric areas around. I've switched the hot
water heater to electric and I love the savings on the propane but I still
like gas heat so no furnace changes for me.
I nailed a matched set of PPro 200's just shortly after the Netserver
purchase, $25 for the set - should be here a day or so after I pick up the
unit so hopefully by this weekend it will be humming along on NT server 4,
possibly SCO Unix.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of jpero(a)sympatico.ca
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:40 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200
serve
Sweet! What OS are you going to run? I've got a
Quad PPro200 system
myself
that I've been meaning to get up and running. I
believe it currently has
NT4 installed, and I've been threatening to load Solaris 7 or 8 on it.
First though I want to disconnect the drive arrays so it sucks up less
power, besides I've been raiding it for drives for other, better systems.
Zane
FYI: 4 Pros 200MHz, (could be 256K or 512K), est: 40W each. Times
four, 160W at full blast.
Raided HD in bunch of 4 or 5 is NOTHING in watt output if these
drives is about 12W each.
BTW, PPro is granddaddy of PII and PIII. :-)
Cheers,
Wizard
PS: Still not conviced that PPro is "worthy" CPUs. I view it as
"bastard child" of PII, celeron is even worse.
4:20 p.m.
New subject: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 serve
FYI: 4 Pros 200MHz, (could be 256K or 512K), est: 40W
each. Times
four, 160W at full blast.
Raided HD in bunch of 4 or 5 is NOTHING in watt output if these
drives is about 12W each.
Why you think I want to tone down the power consumption as much as possible?
I'll probably even pull half or more of the RAM out. I just want to play
with a Quad-Processor system.
PS: Still not conviced that PPro is
"worthy" CPUs. I view it as
"bastard child" of PII, celeron is even worse.
The latest Celerons look pretty good, and the PPro itself is very good.
Besides a PPro is better than a PII! It's just been left behind in the
dust by the newer processors.
Zane
1:59 p.m.
NT 4 server for now, considering SCO Unix as a second. I'm going to
experiment with Apache server on my old IBM 9595-OPT and may possibly switch
the HP later if all owrks out like I want it to. Hell if I could latch onto
a T1 or T3 cheap enough I could always go into the internet ISP biz...like I
have time.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Zane H. Healy
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 6:19 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200
server
Just did a quick scan and I checked the partner site
to no avail and
haven't
had a long time (busy on/off) to dig on the
netserver.hp.com site yet.
http://netserver.hp.com/support/manuals.asp?pid=LXPro
I have a few days, don't pick it up in Clumbus OH
until Wed or Thrus
anyway.
Did manage to nail another set of 2 Pentium Pro 200
cpu's though, she's
gonna be flying with a quad processor setup and (by the time I'm done) 2
gb
of RAM.
Sweet! What OS are you going to run? I've got a Quad PPro200 system myself
that I've been meaning to get up and running. I believe it currently has
NT4 installed, and I've been threatening to load Solaris 7 or 8 on it.
First though I want to disconnect the drive arrays so it sucks up less
power, besides I've been raiding it for drives for other, better systems.
Zane
12:13 p.m.
Duh! - I totally missed the manuals link on the support site. Gi fogger
after overhauling up to 3 PCs and 5 printers a day for 6 days striaght.
Guess I'm slipping.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Zane H. Healy
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:21 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200
server
ANyone have a source on the net for a PDF manual or a
spare hardcopy
they'd
sell or trade for? I pick this monster up from
Columbus IH sometime this
week.
Have you checked the HP website? They seem to have amazingly good archives
of thier PC Doc's online.
Zane
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