21 Jan
2001
21 Jan
'01
2:30 p.m.
Hi all,
I just scored a Lego mindstorm 1.5 this week end unfortunately I am missing
the CD any one around got one and can make a copy? Pleas contact me off
line.
To bring it back to charter I also found an Atari Videon Touch Pad for the
2600. Were there many games that made use of it?
Thanks
Francois
21 Jan
21 Jan
12:52 p.m.
I have one. Have you checked the lego mindstorms website, they may have the
newer version for sale.
Hi all,
I just scored a Lego mindstorm 1.5 this week end unfortunately I am missing
the CD any one around got one and can make a copy? Pleas contact me off
line.
To bring it back to charter I also found an Atari Videon Touch Pad for the
2600. Were there many games that made use of it?
Thanks
Francois
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4:06 p.m.
Nope gotta buy the upgrade version from 1.0 to 1.5 (includes 77 pieces). I
already bought the thing... Just that the CD was missing. And It gonna be
impossible to return or exchange it.
Thanks
Francois
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Strickland" <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Lego Mindstorm
I have one. Have you checked the lego mindstorms
website, they may have
the
newer version for sale.
>
> Hi all,
> I just scored a Lego mindstorm 1.5 this week end unfortunately I am
missing
> the CD any one around got one and can make a
copy? Pleas contact me off
> line.
>
> To bring it back to charter I also found an Atari Videon Touch Pad for
the
2600. Were
there many games that made use of it?
Thanks
Francois
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Jim Strickland
jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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7:30 p.m.
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Sue & Francois wrote:
Nope gotta buy the upgrade version from 1.0 to 1.5
(includes 77 pieces). I
already bought the thing... Just that the CD was missing. And It gonna be
impossible to return or exchange it.
I'll bet an Altair that if you call Lego and explain the situation to them
they'd be happy to send you a replacement. I'll bet a Commodore 64 they
already have it up on their website somewhere if you look hard enough.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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10:37 p.m.
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Sue & Francois wrote:
Speaking of C64s... Does anyone remember Lego's old computer interface
Nope gotta buy the upgrade version from 1.0 to
1.5 (includes 77 pieces). I
already bought the thing... Just that the CD was missing. And It gonna be
impossible to return or exchange it.
I'll bet an Altair that if you call Lego and explain the situation to them
they'd be happy to send you a replacement. I'll bet a Commodore 64 they
already have it up on their website somewhere if you look hard enough. from the 80s? I saw one in a dusty old toy store in
Italy two years ago,
but can't remember a whole lot about it. What kind of
interface did it
use? Was it perhaps only sold to the educational market?
22 Jan
22 Jan
5:48 a.m.
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
Speaking of C64s... Does anyone remember Lego's
old computer interface
from the 80s? I saw one in a dusty old toy store in Italy two years
ago, but can't remember a whole lot about it. What kind of interface
did it use? Was it perhaps only sold to the educational market?
Don't know about the C64 version (it makes sense that they would have made
one for it) but I have an Apple ][ Lego interface. Its an adaptor card
with a connector on the outside. One day I'll find the software for it,
and maybe what it was supposed to connect to.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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7:38 a.m.
Don't know about the C64 version (it makes sense
that they would have made
one for it) but I have an Apple ][ Lego interface.
There was also a LEGO card for the PC, and I recall seeing a picture in a
LEGO book of one of the kits hooked up to, IIRC, a TRS-80 CoCo. FWIW, on
one of the instruction manuals, there's a picture of a compact Mac right
behind the motorized car, as if the car is hooked up to it.
The only type I recall seeing in the closeout pricelist four years back
was Apple II and PC. (The newer 9v equipment is now Mac and PC.)
Tom
Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
6 a.m.
Speaking of C64s... Does anyone remember Lego's old
computer interface
from the 80s? I saw one in a dusty old toy store in Italy two years ago,
but can't remember a whole lot about it. What kind of interface did it
use? Was it perhaps only sold to the educational market?
The Apple II version had a very simple two, maybe three IC card and
connected to the interface box by an I-think-16-pin ribbon connector.
The interface box had two input connectors and nine output connectors
(labeled A/B/C & 1/2/3/4/5/6). A-C could do both even and odd
directions, 1-6 one direction only. Setting A to run even would also
turn on 1, setting it to odd would also turn on 2, etc. The system ran
off 4.5v. The kits were programmed with LEGO TC Logo.
The kits were discontinued just four years ago and were available only
through educational venues. The discontinuation price (no idea how much
they were originally) was $200 for an interface box, card, and blue case
full of LEGO blocks, including the necessary motors/sensors, etc.
Is anybody else more familiar with the the interface? The card looked
awfully simple and I'd be interested in finding a source, as I only have
8 cards but quite a few more of the interface boxes.
Tom
Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
7:53 a.m.
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21 Jan
21 Jan
10:45 p.m.
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Sue & Francois wrote:
I wouldn't be so ready to bet. Many companies offload ALL parts support to
third parties, ie when I needed a replacement recovery CD for my HP
Pavillion I had to call a third party and pay $8 for the CD PLUS $12 more
for the "minimum purchase" requirement, plus about another $5 for shipping.
Or would you still call that happy to send?
I bought my wife a Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player for Christmas, an open box
unit I got a deal on, but it was missing the data cable and I just had to
buy a new one from SonicBlue, the fullfillment house for Rio $24 to get a
replacement (which I still don't have after a week).
Plus the MOMENT a lot of places have an upgrade, they see that as a product
to sell, not to give away. Which I "guess" is still better than the place
that USED to have upgrades, but the link eventually goes dead as the
product gets passed around to new owners etc.
Nope gotta buy the upgrade version from 1.0 to
1.5 (includes 77 pieces). I
already bought the thing... Just that the CD was missing. And It gonna be
impossible to return or exchange it.
I'll bet an Altair that if you call Lego and explain the situation to them
they'd be happy to send you a replacement. I'll bet a Commodore 64 they
already have it up on their website somewhere if you look hard enough.
11:01 p.m.
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
Not Lego. They have quite a competent spare parts service, you will often
find their catalogue in the larger kits, or at least you used to. I
suppose they're the DEC of the toy business. At least when I ordered 9V
spares, they still had 12V train set spares. Of course, this may vary from
country to country.
And their position on software is unknown to me. I want Amiga drivers!
On Sun, 21 Jan
2001, Sue & Francois wrote:
I wouldn't be so ready to bet. Many companies offload ALL parts support to
third parties, ie when I needed a replacement recovery CD for my HP
Pavillion I had to call a third party and pay $8 for the CD PLUS $12 more
for the "minimum purchase" requirement, plus about another $5 for shipping.
Or would you still call that happy to send? Nope gotta buy the upgrade version from 1.0 to
1.5 (includes 77 pieces). I
already bought the thing... Just that the CD was missing. And It gonna be
impossible to return or exchange it.
I'll bet an Altair that if you call Lego and explain the situation to them
they'd be happy to send you a replacement. I'll bet a Commodore 64 they
already have it up on their website somewhere if you look hard enough.
22 Jan
22 Jan
2:55 a.m.
Cool you already owe me a C64 and I have a pending request with Lego for a
CD...
We'll see what happens...
The LEGO site is the first place I looked, then I seached for w*rez. But to
no avail.
Now you make me wish LEGO would reject my request for a CD :).
By the way for those curious, I paid $50 for the $200 set so I can't relly
be too vocal or demanding.
Francois
Festival
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Sue & Francois wrote:
> Nope gotta buy the upgrade version from 1.0 to 1.5 (includes 77 pieces).
I
> already bought the thing... Just that the CD was
missing. And It gonna
be
impossible to
return or exchange it.
I'll bet an Altair that if you call Lego and explain the situation to them
they'd be happy to send you a replacement. I'll bet a Commodore 64 they
already have it up on their website somewhere if you look hard enough.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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3:20 a.m.
The CD contains the tutorial, case-based programming tool and the firmware.
The latest firmware can be downloaded from the mindstorms site.
The case-based programming tool is quite weak. I would consider using NQC
or legOS which is much more powerful and easier to use. Very C like for NQC
and legOS uses GCC...
Ram
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue & Francois" <fauradon(a)mn.mediaone.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Lego Mindstorm
Nope gotta buy the upgrade version from 1.0 to 1.5
(includes 77 pieces). I
already bought the thing... Just that the CD was missing. And It gonna be
impossible to return or exchange it.
Thanks
Francois
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Strickland" <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Lego Mindstorm
off
I have one. Have you checked the lego mindstorms
website, they may have
the
newer version for sale.
>
> Hi all,
> I just scored a Lego mindstorm 1.5 this week end unfortunately I am
missing
> > the CD any one around got one and can make a copy? Pleas contact me > line.
>
> To bring it back to charter I also found an Atari Videon Touch Pad for
the
> > 2600. Were there many games that made use of it?
> > Thanks
> > Francois
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jim Strickland
> jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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3:55 a.m.
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote:
The CD contains the tutorial, case-based programming
tool and the firmware.
The latest firmware can be downloaded from the mindstorms site.
The case-based programming tool is quite weak. I would consider using NQC
or legOS which is much more powerful and easier to use. Very C like for NQC
and legOS uses GCC...
Don't forget pbForth (Forth for the RCX) and Lejos/TinyVM (Java for the
RCX). The RCX has an 8 bit Hitachi H8/3294 with 16KB of ROM and 32K of
RAM, so it has the potential to do far more than the included software
allows.
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2:19 a.m.
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:30:07 -0800 Sue & Francois
<fauradon(a)mn.mediaone.net> wrote:
...
To bring it back to charter I also found an Atari
Videon Touch Pad for the
2600. Were there many games that made use of it?
I have a calculator-like keypad for the 2600. Presumably
not the same thing? It's got about 12 keys, 3x4
arrangement, all in black plastic. I suppose the game was
supplied with an overlay. Any clues about what game(s)
used this thing?
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