9 Jul
2009
9 Jul
'09
12:50 a.m.
I have but one obstacle left... being able to unpack an apple floppy
image file from a PC. I have a bin file containing the files I need
to get the quadra going. I got the floppy drive working on the
quadra. I can read and write mac floppies from my windows machine.
But I can't get the files out of the bin file. And I can't write the
bin file directly to the disk and make the quadra read it. So i need
either a mac emulator I can run on XP, or a windows utility to unpack
the mac bin file and produce individual files which I can write to the
floppy. Anyone have any ideas?
I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu black terminator for the
IIfx. So I should be able to attach the 600e to that machine and get
it going. That hard drive would hopefully be recognized by the
install CD. Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45 doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
brian
9 Jul
9 Jul
9:49 a.m.
a bin file isn't a packed file, AFAIK there's no direct way to get files out of
it.
the only way I know of is to write the file do a disk, then read the files from there.
the reason is the bin is typically a "raw" disk
perhaps a floppy emulator would work, but that's a lot of work,
it's simpler just to write it to disk, then read the files off the disk.
there were (should be) utilities to read the mac floppy on dos/windows.
I used to have one, but have no idea where it is now.
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:50:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Classic mac fun (and some questions) (continued...again...)
From: brianlanning at gmail.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
I have but one obstacle left... being able to unpack an apple floppy
image file from a PC. I have a bin file containing the files I need
to get the quadra going. I got the floppy drive working on the
quadra. I can read and write mac floppies from my windows machine.
But I can't get the files out of the bin file. And I can't write the
bin file directly to the disk and make the quadra read it. So i need
either a mac emulator I can run on XP, or a windows utility to unpack
the mac bin file and produce individual files which I can write to the
floppy. Anyone have any ideas?
I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu black terminator for the
IIfx. So I should be able to attach the 600e to that machine and get
it going. That hard drive would hopefully be recognized by the
install CD. Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45 doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
brian
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12:04 p.m.
On 09/07/2009 14:49, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
a bin file isn't a packed file, AFAIK there's
no direct way to get files out of it.
the only way I know of is to write the file do a disk, then read the files from there.
the reason is the bin is typically a "raw" disk
perhaps a floppy emulator would work, but that's a lot of work,
it's simpler just to write it to disk, then read the files off the disk.
there were (should be) utilities to read the mac floppy on dos/windows.
I used to have one, but have no idea where it is now.
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:50:26 -0500
> Subject: Re: Classic mac fun (and some questions) (continued...again...)
> From: brianlanning at gmail.com
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
>
> I have but one obstacle left... being able to unpack an apple floppy
> image file from a PC. I have a bin file containing the files I need
> to get the quadra going.
Chances are that it's actually a BinHex file, or perhaps one that's been
unpacked, or it's a MacBinary file (later version of BinHex don't
actually generate true hex, so it might still look "binary"). There are
open source Unix utilities to unpack both of those formats, and also to
handle AppleSingle files (similar to MacBinary). The catch is that the
files inside will have two parts, a resource fork and a data fork (and
possibly a third part, the Finder data). If you unpack them on a PC,
you may lose the resource fork.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
12:32 p.m.
2009/7/9 Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com>:
On 09/07/2009 14:49, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
Yup. Which is why I was asking what Brian was trying to do... :?)
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a bin file isn't a packed file, AFAIK there's no direct way to get files
out of it.
the only way I know of is to write the file do a disk, then read the files
from there.
the reason is the bin is typically a "raw" disk
perhaps a floppy emulator would work, but that's a lot of work,
it's simpler just to write it to disk, then read the files off the disk.
there were (should be) utilities to read the mac floppy on dos/windows.
I used to have one, but have no idea where it is now.
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:50:26 -0500
> Subject: Re: Classic mac fun (and some questions) (continued...again...)
> From: brianlanning at gmail.com
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
>
> I have but one obstacle left... being able to unpack an apple floppy
> image file from a PC. ?I have a bin file containing the files I need
> to get the quadra going.
Chances are that it's actually a BinHex file, or perhaps one that's been
unpacked, or it's a MacBinary file (later version of BinHex don't actually
generate true hex, so it might still look "binary"). ?There are open source
Unix utilities to unpack both of those formats, and also to handle
AppleSingle files (similar to MacBinary). ?The catch is that the files
inside will have two parts, a resource fork and a data fork (and possibly a
third part, the Finder data). ?If you unpack them on a PC, you may lose the
resource fork.
10:03 a.m.
2009/7/9 Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com>:
I have but one obstacle left... being able to unpack
an apple floppy
image file from a PC. ?I have a bin file containing the files I need
to get the quadra going. ?I got the floppy drive working on the
quadra. ?I can read and write mac floppies from my windows machine.
But I can't get the files out of the bin file. ?And I can't write the
bin file directly to the disk and make the quadra read it. ?So i need
either a mac emulator I can run on XP, or a windows utility to unpack
the mac bin file and produce individual files which I can write to the
floppy. ?Anyone have any ideas?
I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu black terminator for the
IIfx. ?So I should be able to attach the 600e to that machine and get
it going. ?That hard drive would hopefully be recognized by the
install CD. ?Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45 doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. ?I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
What are you actually trying to achieve vis-a-vis .bin files, the PC
and the Mac?
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10:38 a.m.
At 11:50 PM -0500 7/8/09, Brian Lanning wrote:
I have but one obstacle left... being able to unpack an
apple floppy
image file from a PC. I have a bin file containing the files I need
to get the quadra going. I got the floppy drive working on the
quadra. I can read and write mac floppies from my windows machine.
But I can't get the files out of the bin file. And I can't write the
bin file directly to the disk and make the quadra read it. So i need
either a mac emulator I can run on XP, or a windows utility to unpack
the mac bin file and produce individual files which I can write to the
floppy. Anyone have any ideas?
I used to do this using an emulator on Linux. It was how I got
things transferred between my PC Laptop and my Mac Laptop when I was
in the Navy.
Take a look at Executor. From a quick Google, it appears that it is
no longer a commercial product, and that the source code is available.
Zane
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11:50 a.m.
New subject: Omni Systems?
Hello, all,
I am wondering if anyone here has had dealings with Omni Systems
(www.omnicorp.net) located in New Jersey, and if so, if the experience
was good or bad.
They advertise on their website that they buy/sell DEC hardware. They
have an item listed on their website that I've been looking for, and
want to get any impressions from those here before I contact them.
Their website looks as if it hasn't been updated in quite some time, and
the Email links provide addresses that are rejected by their server,
which raise some yellow flags with me.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Museum
http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
12:04 p.m.
New subject: Omni Systems?
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Rick Bensene wrote:
I am wondering if anyone here has had dealings with
Omni Systems
(www.omnicorp.net) located in New Jersey, and if so, if the experience
was good or bad.
They advertise on their website that they buy/sell DEC hardware. They
have an item listed on their website that I've been looking for, and
want to get any impressions from those here before I contact them.
Their website looks as if it hasn't been updated in quite some
time, and
the Email links provide addresses that are rejected by their server,
which raise some yellow flags with me.
Any help is appreciated.
I can tell you a lot about them. Omni Systems is a small company
with a handful of employees. It is owned by a man named Jim
Gonzalez. I have known him for about 26 years. He was my childhood
DEC mentor and is largely responsible for my "getting going" in PDP-8
and PDP-11 stuff. He is ex-DEC field service, and knows his stuff
very well. He left DEC and started Omni Systems some thirty years ago.
Before I was old enough to drive, I would beg my grandmother to
drive me up to his place (~2hrs away) with a stack of RL01 packs and
my RSX11M distribution tape, so he could make me a set of install
packs for my PDP-11/34a, as I lacked a magtape drive. I did that
about three times as I learned about sysgen and expanded my system.
He gave and sold me lots of hardware, and helped me get everything
running. Over a few years my grandmother drove me up there perhaps a
dozen times...she'd go upstairs and hang out with Jim's wife, while
Jim and I would descend to the first floor and hack on PDP stuff.
He and I lost touch for many years, but ran across each other
again about three years ago. This past March, on a big road trip, I
was able to stop by his place and hang out with his family a bit.
He is one of the most all-around great guys I have ever known.
I will call him and tell him about the email link issue.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
15 Jul
15 Jul
10:20 a.m.
New subject: Warped punched cards
Yesterday, I assisted a member of our meterology department by running
two boxes of punched cards through my reader and saving the data for him:
http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/Documation/
I don't know how the boxes were stored, but all of the decks had a
severe curve (lengthwise) which made it necessary to unbend them enough to
go through the reader. I was only able to read 100 cards or so at a time,
or else they would start to jam in the stacker. The job took about 2
hours (read and verify), but I would have been able to complete it in much
less than an hour if I could have run complete decks through.
Does anyone have any tips for straightening warped cards? The
Documation machines will read just about anything, due to their short,
straight feed path and vacuum picker mechanism, but being able to flatten
out a batch of cards would be preferable.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
10:49 a.m.
New subject: Warped punched cards
Mike Loewen wrote:
Does anyone have any tips for straightening warped
cards? The
Documation machines will read just about anything, due to their short,
straight feed path and vacuum picker mechanism, but being able to
flatten out a batch of cards would be preferable.
The last time I had to do this (it was only about 75 cards), I put a
metal plate on top of the stacked cards and *gently* steamed them in an
autoclave.
Peace... Sridhar
11:49 a.m.
New subject: Warped punched cards
On 15 Jul 2009 at 10:20, Mike Loewen wrote:
Does anyone have any tips for straightening warped
cards? The
Documation machines will read just about anything, due to their short,
straight feed path and vacuum picker mechanism, but being able to
flatten out a batch of cards would be preferable.
This would occasionally happen if a deck was stored in high humidity.
A steam iron works well, but can be a slow process.
Cheers,
Chuck
4:23 p.m.
New subject: Warped punched cards
In the mid 1960s, my father did some social science research work for CBS,
including their "National Driver's Test".
The impetus for him to learn FORTRAN was the botched job that IBM did on
the programming of the data analysis of the driver's test. On screen, you
could see Walter Cronkite stalling for time, while my father, behind him,
was frantically manually calculating, so that at least the percentages
added to 100.
In several of their later projects, they actually distributed
"Port-a-punch" cards, and had people slap a stamp onto them and MAIL THEM!
SOME had to be completely repunched, and some had to be duplicated one at
a time on an 029. BUT, MOST of them were readable! I heard that what
they did was use a simple hydraulic press on the decks, and then IBM
enlarged (opened to its maximum?) the gate of the card reader.
("Port-a-punch" cards were ordinary IBM cards that were pre-perforated on
every other column, giving 40 columns of data)
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
8:32 p.m.
New subject: Warped punched cards
In several of their later projects, they actually
distributed
"Port-a-punch" cards, and had people slap a stamp onto them and MAIL THEM!
SOME had to be completely repunched, and some had to be duplicated one at
a time on an 029. ?BUT, MOST of them were readable! ?I heard that what
they did was use a simple hydraulic press on the decks, and then IBM
enlarged (opened to its maximum?) the gate of the card reader.
IBM had duplicating punches that could handle really mangled cards.
For example, the punch cards used by tube dealers back in the 1960s
(used for reordering) were typically folded in three inside a sleeve
of tubes.
--
Will
8:55 p.m.
New subject: Warped punched cards
On 15 Jul 2009 at 20:32, William Donzelli wrote:
IBM had duplicating punches that could handle really
mangled cards.
For example, the punch cards used by tube dealers back in the 1960s
(used for reordering) were typically folded in three inside a sleeve
of tubes.
In that movie "Billion Dollar Brain", Karl Malden pulls three cards
folded in half out of his pocket and sticks them into the deck that's
being read by the H200 reader. I thought that was pretty gutsy.
Good thing that H200 wasn't a 360/20 with that insane 2560 MFCM--the
movie would have ended much sooner...
--Chuck
9:24 p.m.
New subject: Warped punched cards
William Donzelli wrote:
IBM had duplicating punches that could handle really
mangled cards.
For example, the punch cards used by tube dealers back in the 1960s
(used for reordering) were typically folded in three inside a sleeve
of tubes.
I remember back in the early 80's, Con Edison used to send a punch card
with their bills to be returned with a check and the inscription "do not
fold, staple or mutilate." :-)
9 Jul
9 Jul
noon
On 7/9/09, Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com> wrote:
I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu black
terminator for the
IIfx. So I should be able to attach the 600e to that machine and get
it going.
I tried to look that up and found it easy to see that the IIfx needed
something odd (I couldn't find specifics), so well done there. It
would be interesting to get the details to see where Apple went off
the rails from the SCSI spec.
Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45
doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iifx.html
Are you sure that's an AUI connection? I would expect a Mac of that
vintage to have a DA-15 for video but not Ethernet. Does it have 4-40
screwposts or stud-heads to receive a slide-lock clip? I've never
worked with a IIfx, but I would expect it to need a NuBus Ethernet
card.
If it really is an AUI, what was also common in the day was an AUI
cable to the transceiver. I've seen plenty of heavy-duty ones from
back in the 10Base2 days and lots of light-grade 1m to 2m-long thinner
cables with molded black plastic ends that look suitable for
office/desktop use.
<http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/Ethernet-Transceiver-Cable-Office-Environment-10-ft-3-0-m/LCN210-0010>
And some info...
<http://www.ethermanage.com/ethernet/10quickref/ch3qr_7.html>
-ethan
12:41 p.m.
On 09/07/2009 17:00, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I don't have it now to check, but I'm sure my IIfx was indeed a DA-15.
I still have the DA15-to-something-sensible adaptor. Mine did also have
a network card, but the presentation was 10baseT. If it has 4-40
screws, it's video; if it's slide-lock, it's Ethernet.
Then I would
only need to find an AUI to RJ-45 doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iifx.html
Are you sure that's an AUI connection? I would expect a Mac of that
vintage to have a DA-15 for video but not Ethernet. Does it have 4-40
screwposts or stud-heads to receive a slide-lock clip? I've never
worked with a IIfx, but I would expect it to need a NuBus Ethernet
card. If it really is an AUI, what was also common in the
day was an AUI
cable to the transceiver. I've seen plenty of heavy-duty ones from
back in the 10Base2 days and lots of light-grade 1m to 2m-long thinner
cables with molded black plastic ends that look suitable for
office/desktop use.
Companies like Allied Telesyn made two types of mini transceiver, there
was the normal one (AT-210T) that was a more-or-less rectangular box
with a slide-lock DA15 and rounded corners which works on most things
because they don't have stupid slim recesses, and there was the
"micro-transceiver" (AT-210TS) which is very slightly longer, but
stepped so the end with the DA15 is only as thick as it needs to be to
accommodate the connector, and hence fits Macs -- which is what it was
specially designed for. Google will find you pictures.
The AUI drop cables are actually specified to be thick blue things
(normally with diecast metal connectors) for normal grade, and thinner
beige things (with beige or black plastic-covered connectors for what is
officially called "office grade" and restricted to short lengths. I was
just about to put one or two (office grade) on eBay, if anyone needs one.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
1:47 p.m.
I was able to find some schematics for the special iifx terminator.
it was just a few extra filter caps. I had planned to make one, but
hadn't got to it yet. I managed to find a real one first.
the iifx has a nubus ethernet card with a 10base2 and aui connector
but no rj45. the tranceiver I have is too fat to fit into the slot in
the back of the machine. so it can't reach the db15.
i've been meaning to setup a linux box so maybe i'll try the emulator
route with that.
On 7/9/09, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/9/09, Brian Lanning <brianlanning at
gmail.com> wrote:
I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu
black terminator for the
IIfx. So I should be able to attach the 600e to that machine and get
it going.
I tried to look that up and found it easy to see that the IIfx needed
something odd (I couldn't find specifics), so well done there. It
would be interesting to get the details to see where Apple went off
the rails from the SCSI spec.
Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45
doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iifx.html
Are you sure that's an AUI connection? I would expect a Mac of that
vintage to have a DA-15 for video but not Ethernet. Does it have 4-40
screwposts or stud-heads to receive a slide-lock clip? I've never
worked with a IIfx, but I would expect it to need a NuBus Ethernet
card.
If it really is an AUI, what was also common in the day was an AUI
cable to the transceiver. I've seen plenty of heavy-duty ones from
back in the 10Base2 days and lots of light-grade 1m to 2m-long thinner
cables with molded black plastic ends that look suitable for
office/desktop use.
<http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/Ethernet-Transceiver-Cable-Office-Environment-10-ft-3-0-m/LCN210-0010>
And some info...
<http://www.ethermanage.com/ethernet/10quickref/ch3qr_7.html>
-ethan
2:03 p.m.
FWIW: I have two different styles of AUI-to-UTP converters. One is the block style
that's been mentioned here. The other has a short lead terminated in a DB15. I
don't have a IIfx so I can't test the hypothesis, but if it's similar to the
IIsi I think it should fit. -- Ian
PS: where did I get those transceivers? eBay....
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brian Lanning
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:48 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Classic mac fun (and some questions)
(continued...again...)
I was able to find some schematics for the special iifx terminator.
it was just a few extra filter caps. I had planned to make one, but
hadn't got to it yet. I managed to find a real one first.
the iifx has a nubus ethernet card with a 10base2 and aui connector
but no rj45. the tranceiver I have is too fat to fit into the slot in
the back of the machine. so it can't reach the db15.
i've been meaning to setup a linux box so maybe i'll try the emulator
route with that.
On 7/9/09, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
I
40
On 7/9/09, Brian Lanning <brianlanning at
gmail.com> wrote:
> I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu black terminator for
the
> IIfx. So I should be able to attach the
600e to that machine and
get
it
going.
I tried to look that up and found it easy to see that the IIfx needed
something odd (I couldn't find specifics), so well done there. It
would be interesting to get the details to see where Apple went off
the rails from the SCSI spec.
> Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45 doodad
> which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. > have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat
to reach the db-15
connector
on the
network card.
http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iifx.html
Are you sure that's an AUI connection? I would expect a Mac of that
vintage to have a DA-15 for video but not Ethernet. Does it have 4- screwposts or stud-heads to receive a slide-lock
clip? I've never
worked with a IIfx, but I would expect it to need a NuBus Ethernet
card.
If it really is an AUI, what was also common in the day was an AUI
cable to the transceiver. I've seen plenty of heavy-duty ones from
back in the 10Base2 days and lots of light-grade 1m to 2m-long
thinner
cables with molded black plastic ends that look
suitable for
office/desktop use.
<http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/Ethernet-Transceiver-
Cable-Office-Environment-10-ft-3-0-m/LCN210-0010>
>
> And some info...
>
> <http://www.ethermanage.com/ethernet/10quickref/ch3qr_7.html>
>
> -ethan
> 
6:28 p.m.
Brian Lanning wrote:
I was able to find some schematics for the special
iifx terminator.
it was just a few extra filter caps. I had planned to make one, but
hadn't got to it yet. I managed to find a real one first.
the iifx has a nubus ethernet card with a 10base2 and aui connector
but no rj45. the tranceiver I have is too fat to fit into the slot in
the back of the machine. so it can't reach the db15.
someone here should have an AUI cable you could use between
the computer and the transciever... I may have somewhere...
but it would take a lot of digging (haven't used AUI cables in yrs).
-- Curt
i've been meaning to setup a linux box so maybe
i'll try the emulator
route with that.
On 7/9/09, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/9/09, Brian Lanning <brianlanning at
gmail.com> wrote:
I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu
black terminator for the
IIfx. So I should be able to attach the 600e to that machine and get
it going.
I tried to look that up and found it easy to see that the IIfx needed
something odd (I couldn't find specifics), so well done there. It
would be interesting to get the details to see where Apple went off
the rails from the SCSI spec.
Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45
doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iifx.html
Are you sure that's an AUI connection? I would expect a Mac of that
vintage to have a DA-15 for video but not Ethernet. Does it have 4-40
screwposts or stud-heads to receive a slide-lock clip? I've never
worked with a IIfx, but I would expect it to need a NuBus Ethernet
card.
If it really is an AUI, what was also common in the day was an AUI
cable to the transceiver. I've seen plenty of heavy-duty ones from
back in the 10Base2 days and lots of light-grade 1m to 2m-long thinner
cables with molded black plastic ends that look suitable for
office/desktop use.
<http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/Ethernet-Transceiver-Cable-Office-Environment-10-ft-3-0-m/LCN210-0010>
And some info...
<http://www.ethermanage.com/ethernet/10quickref/ch3qr_7.html>
-ethan
7:51 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Curtis H. Wilbar
Jr.<rescue at hawkmountain.net> wrote:
someone here should have an AUI cable you could use
between
the computer and the transciever... I may have somewhere...
but it would take a lot of digging (haven't used AUI cables in yrs).
If anyone has an aui cable or skinny transceiver they're willing to
sell or trade, please let me know. Thanks.
brian
6:20 p.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
On 7/9/09, Brian Lanning <brianlanning at
gmail.com> wrote:
As I recall the IIFX did not have a net connection on the motherboard...
it was always via expansion card. The cards usually had AUI and 10base2
(coax), AUI and 10baseT, and possibly all 3. Definitely did not have AAUI
that I recall.
-- Curt
I also picked up a rare and elusive kung-fu
black terminator for the
IIfx. So I should be able to attach the 600e to that machine and get
it going.
I tried to look that up and found it easy to see that the IIfx needed
something odd (I couldn't find specifics), so well done there. It
would be interesting to get the details to see where Apple went off
the rails from the SCSI spec.
Then I would only need to find an AUI to RJ-45
doodad
which is skinny enough to fit into the recessed ports on the IIfx. I
have an AUI thingy now, but it's too fat to reach the db-15 connector
on the network card.
http://lowendmac.com/ii/macintosh-iifx.html
Are you sure that's an AUI connection? I would expect a Mac of that
vintage to have a DA-15 for video but not Ethernet. Does it have 4-40
screwposts or stud-heads to receive a slide-lock clip? I've never
worked with a IIfx, but I would expect it to need a NuBus Ethernet
card.
If it really is an AUI, what was also common in the
day was an AUI
cable to the transceiver. I've seen plenty of heavy-duty ones from
back in the 10Base2 days and lots of light-grade 1m to 2m-long thinner
cables with molded black plastic ends that look suitable for
office/desktop use.
<http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/Ethernet-Transceiver-Cable-Office-Environment-10-ft-3-0-m/LCN210-0010>
And some info...
<http://www.ethermanage.com/ethernet/10quickref/ch3qr_7.html>
-ethan
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