G'Day, I have accumulated a CAMAC crate that, despite my best intentions, I am never going to use. I have a whole load of cards for it. If anyone is interested I'll produce a list of cards. The crate and cards have spent some time at CERN and looking at the stickers on it, at other laboratories around the UK. As usual, I am happy to deliver in the UK if it is not too far from where I may be passing - which can be a lot of the UK. Otherwise it is collect from Cheltenham. I may consider posting if anyone is serious enough - weighs well in excess of 20kg, and quite possibly 30+kg. Thanks. Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh