29 Sep
2000
29 Sep
'00
12:21 p.m.
I recently acquired a Workslate and matching printer in excellent
condition - still a pretty cool looking unit. The guy I got them from
thought it ran CP/M, but it uses a 6803 with its own proprietary 'OS.' The
manuals make no mention of the specs for the (missing) wall warts. Does
anyone have a Workslate with the power supplies? Since both units use 4 AA,
alkaline or nicads, I guess it's not too critical. Also, knowing the
polarity would be helpful.
Thanks.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
29 Sep
29 Sep
2:17 p.m.
Re:
manuals make no mention of the specs for the (missing)
wall warts. Does
anyone have a Workslate with the power supplies? Since both units use 4 AA,
ywa
alkaline or nicads, I guess it's not too critical.
Also, knowing the
polarity would be helpful.
Power Supply, model WK-102:
Input: AC 120 V
60 Hz
150 mA
Output: DC 6 V
750 mA
negative tip (positive shield)
Note: that's what's listed on the supply...I didn't have chance to test it.
Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler
30 Sep
30 Sep
2:02 a.m.
Thanks, Stan.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Sieler [mailto:ss@allegro.com]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:18 PM
To: Robert Stek; classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Convergent Technologies Workslate
Re:
manuals make no mention of the specs for the
(missing) wall warts. Does
anyone have a Workslate with the power supplies? Since both
units use 4 AA,
ywa
alkaline or nicads, I guess it's not too
critical. Also, knowing the
polarity would be helpful.
Power Supply, model WK-102:
Input: AC 120 V
60 Hz
150 mA
Output: DC 6 V
750 mA
negative tip (positive shield)
Note: that's what's listed on the supply...I didn't have chance
to test it.
Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler
29 Sep
29 Sep
5:19 p.m.
I have one of these -- the guy I got it from claimed that is was a prototype
Palm Pilot (NO idea where he got that from) but it was a cool looking
machine so I picked it up anyway. Only $8, what the hell...
But I haven't really been able to do anything useful with it -- there's a
little spreadsheet program, text editor, tape recorder, 300 baud modem +
comms software, but my TI-86 graphing calculator can do all of this
(including the modem, up to 9600 bps ;) )
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Stek" <r.stek(a)snet.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 8:21 PM
Subject: Convergent Technologies Workslate
I recently acquired a Workslate and matching printer
in excellent
condition - still a pretty cool looking unit. The guy I got them from
thought it ran CP/M, but it uses a 6803 with its own proprietary 'OS.'
The
manuals make no mention of the specs for the (missing)
wall warts. Does
anyone have a Workslate with the power supplies? Since both units use 4
AA,
alkaline or nicads, I guess it's not too critical.
Also, knowing the
polarity would be helpful.
Thanks.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
30 Sep
30 Sep
5:59 p.m.
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Kevin Stewart wrote:
I have one of these -- the guy I got it from claimed
that is was a
prototype Palm Pilot (NO idea where he got that from) but it was a
cool looking machine so I picked it up anyway. Only $8, what the
hell...
That's a load of crap. He was probably thinking something along the lines
that it was a Palm Pilot 15 years before the Palm Pilot.
But I haven't really been able to do anything
useful with it -- there's a
little spreadsheet program, text editor, tape recorder, 300 baud modem +
comms software, but my TI-86 graphing calculator can do all of this
(including the modem, up to 9600 bps ;) )
Sure, but 15 years ago?
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2 Oct
2 Oct
1:22 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
I recently acquired a microvax 3400, and I will shortly have a dec
CDROM drive (RRD42-AA). I am looking for a scsi interface for the
microvax so that, when I finally get my decus membership ID, I can
get the latest VMS cd's and reinstall (I currently have VMS 5.1 installed).
Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface for this system?
thanks!
-Bob
Bob Brown
Saved by grace
Intranet Sysadmin Page: http://info1.harper.cc.il.us/~bbrown
4:20 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
Bob Brown wrote:
I recently acquired a microvax 3400, and I will
shortly have a dec
CDROM drive (RRD42-AA). I am looking for a scsi interface for the
microvax so that, when I finally get my decus membership ID, I can
get the latest VMS cd's and reinstall (I currently have VMS 5.1 installed).
Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface for this system?
Jerome Fine replies:
It depends on how much your are willing to pay! Unfortunately,
most SCSI interfaces for the Qbus are still hundreds of dollars.
And for a 3400, the only model that I know of is the CQD 223/M
made by CMD. There may be others that will also fit the Qbus,
but the 3400 backplane required a filler board and the extra
bulkheads. It would be helpful if anyone else on the list can
suggest another less expensive alternative. Note that if you also
want SCSI tape interfaces, the model is CQD 223/TM.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
4:28 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
At 08:22 AM 10/2/00 -0500, you wrote:
Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface for
this system?
Well the obvious folks are DEC resellers. If you look on the web and/or in
Processor Magazine (its an advertising thing for resellers) you can find
several. I know the CMD CQD-223 and/or 443/TM work under both VMS and
NetBSD. Be prepared to pay somewhere between $500 and $1500 if you go this
route (the advantage though is that you get one right away.) You can
continue to watch Ebay, I have seen SCSI interfaces appear there now and
again and they usually go for less than $500.
--Chuck
(ebay: chuckmcm :-)
4:43 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
If it's gonna cost that much (way more than I can afford to spend on it)..
can anyone point me to a recent vms distribution on TK70 tape so I can
use the tape drive?
thanks.
-Bob
At 08:22 AM 10/2/00 -0500, you wrote:
Bob Brown
Saved by grace
Intranet Sysadmin Page: http://info1.harper.cc.il.us/~bbrown
Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface
for this system?
Well the obvious folks are DEC resellers. If you look on the web
and/or in Processor Magazine (its an advertising thing for
resellers) you can find several. I know the CMD CQD-223 and/or
443/TM work under both VMS and NetBSD. Be prepared to pay somewhere
between $500 and $1500 if you go this route (the advantage though is
that you get one right away.) You can continue to watch Ebay, I have
seen SCSI interfaces appear there now and again and they usually go
for less than $500.
--Chuck
(ebay: chuckmcm :-)
5:08 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
At 11:43 AM 10/2/00 -0500, Bob wrote:
If it's gonna cost that much (way more than I can
afford to spend on it)..
can anyone point me to a recent vms distribution on TK70 tape so I can
use the tape drive?
I didn't say it _had_ to cost that much, just that it could :-). I got my
CQD-443/TM for free as it came inside a 3400 I rescued from certain death.
But there is certainly a time/cost function at work. If you wait patiently
and let everyone know what you need then things pop up from time to time.
Unpredictable though.
The interesting question this raises of course is how one might go about
creating a "release" disk on TK70 (I've got TK70's in all my VAXen and
TK85's in a couple). Just this past week I was experimenting with creating
a standalone backup tape to "mass install" but discovered that while this
may work for the OS it definitely does not work for the layered products.
In particular things like BASIC and ADA tend to build system definition
tables based on the system they are installed on and when you move that
data to a new system they are inevitably "wrong" and the compiler asks to
be re-installed from the save sets. I know I can put together a TK70 with
standalone backup and VMS 7.2 on it. That part works fine.
--Chuck
5:39 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
Bob Brown wrote:
I recently acquired a microvax 3400, and I will shortly
have a dec
CDROM drive (RRD42-AA). I am looking for a scsi interface for the
microvax so that, when I finally get my decus membership ID, I can
get the latest VMS cd's and reinstall (I currently have VMS 5.1 installed).
Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface for this system?
OK, this is going to sound a bit odd.... The cheapest SCSI interface
you're going to find is something like a VAXstation 3100/10. You put the
SCSI disks (and tapes) on it, and cluster the two systems together. Early
3100's are dirt cheap these days.
If you have two drives and they're big enough on the MV3400, you can do
like I did for my MicroVAX 3. I simply backed up the Hobbyist CD, copied
it over the network to a RA73 and restored it to a RA72, then I booted off
the RA72. Since you already have VMS installed on the MV3400 this should
work for you also (I had 5.5-2 on a RD54 when I did it).
Zane
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5:55 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
How much do early 3100's cost these days?
-Bob
Bob Brown wrote:
Bob Brown
Saved by grace
Intranet Sysadmin Page: http://info1.harper.cc.il.us/~bbrown
I recently acquired a microvax 3400, and I will
shortly have a dec
CDROM drive (RRD42-AA). I am looking for a scsi interface for the
microvax so that, when I finally get my decus membership ID, I can
get the latest VMS cd's and reinstall (I currently have VMS 5.1 installed).
Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface for this system?
OK, this is going to sound a bit odd.... The cheapest SCSI interface
you're going to find is something like a VAXstation 3100/10. You put the
SCSI disks (and tapes) on it, and cluster the two systems together. Early
3100's are dirt cheap these days.
If you have two drives and they're big enough on the MV3400, you can do
like I did for my MicroVAX 3. I simply backed up the Hobbyist CD, copied
it over the network to a RA73 and restored it to a RA72, then I booted off
the RA72. Since you already have VMS installed on the MV3400 this should
work for you also (I had 5.5-2 on a RD54 when I did it).
Zane
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| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
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7:35 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
How much do early 3100's cost these days?
-Bob
Anywhere from nothing to about $100 depending on configuration and where
you get it from. The model will also effect the price some. However, with
VAXstation 4000/VLC's and model 60's being in the $50-300 range the early
3100's have little to no value. If you don't mind spending $50-100 I'd
really recommend going for the 4000/VLC! My VLC is currently my favorite
VAX. It has the added advantage of a normal external SCSI connector and
using basically normal RAM. Something the early 3100's don't have in
either case.
Zane
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10:27 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
Bob Brown wrote:
MicroVAX 3400 .ne. MicroVAX/VAXstation 3100
Bob is looking to add affordable SCSI to a MV3400, that's where the early
3100 comes into play :^)
Oddly enough there aren't any 3100's on eBay at the moment.
Zane
How much do early 3100's cost these days?
-Bob
There's a 'Working' Vax 3400 on ebay right now at a dollar...
Jim
12:08 p.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
I beg to differ... try:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=452022321>
Currently $10.
Jim
3 Oct
3 Oct
12:38 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
I beg to differ... try:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=452022321>
Currently $10.
Jim
OK, I missed that 3100 somehow :^) Looks like that's exactly what the
original poster needs.
Zane
5:55 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
OK, I missed
that 3100 somehow :^) Looks like that's exactly what the
original poster needs.
Zane
Except it doesn't have a hard drive and questionable as to memory.
-Bob 
4 Oct
4 Oct
9:19 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
I beg to differ... try:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=452022321>
Currently $10.
Gives me a chuckle everytime somebody thinks the bid value prior to closing
means something. Currently $25 with 6 hrs to go.
11:17 a.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
Which means that it will sell at 'fair market value' just like most
everything else on ebay. If you want it add about 20% to what it's
worth and bid away!
Jim
Mike Ford wrote:
I beg to differ... try:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=452022321>
Currently $10.
Gives me a chuckle everytime somebody thinks the bid value prior to closing
means something. Currently $25 with 6 hrs to go. 
2 Oct
2 Oct
3:47 p.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
Bob Brown wrote:
How much do early 3100's cost these days?
I got mine on ebay for $40.99 but I haven't seen it yet (yes I know I'm taking
a chance on a junker).
-Bob
>Bob Brown wrote:
> >I recently acquired a microvax 3400, and I will shortly have a dec
> >CDROM drive (RRD42-AA). I am looking for a scsi interface for the
> >microvax so that, when I finally get my decus membership ID, I can
> >get the latest VMS cd's and reinstall (I currently have VMS 5.1 installed).
> >
> >
> >Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface for this system?
>
>OK, this is going to sound a bit odd.... The cheapest SCSI interface
>you're going to find is something like a VAXstation 3100/10. You put the
>SCSI disks (and tapes) on it, and cluster the two systems together. Early
>3100's are dirt cheap these days.
>
>If you have two drives and they're big enough on the MV3400, you can do
>like I did for my MicroVAX 3. I simply backed up the Hobbyist CD, copied
>it over the network to a RA73 and restored it to a RA72, then I booted off
>the RA72. Since you already have VMS installed on the MV3400 this should
>work for you also (I had 5.5-2 on a RD54 when I did it).
Cool idea, I've got to remember that one. Of course that is the power of these
beasts isn't it? :-)
--
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http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
4:07 p.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
I've got one that doesn't boot. It powers up (the power supply is good :-)
The history was that it was given to me, I tried powering it up, it didn't
do anything, I took it apart, saw that it had no memory so I put some
memory in (backwards!) and powered it up? Still nothing, noted the memory
was in backward, threw out that memory and put in another memory board
correctly, powered it up and still nada. The diag leds go through a few
steps and then stop with all of them on.
Anyway, if anyone wants it I'd be happy to box it up and send it to them
for the cost of shipping.
--Chuck
At 11:47 PM 10/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
Bob Brown wrote:
How much do early 3100's cost these days?
I got mine on ebay for $40.99 but I haven't seen it yet (yes I know I'm taking
a chance on a junker).
-Bob
>Bob Brown wrote:
> >I recently acquired a microvax 3400, and I will shortly have a dec
> >CDROM drive (RRD42-AA). I am looking for a scsi interface for the
> >microvax so that, when I finally get my decus membership ID, I can
> >get the latest VMS cd's and reinstall (I currently have VMS 5.1
installed).
> >
> >
> >Any ideas on where I might find a scsi interface for this system?
>
>OK, this is going to sound a bit odd.... The cheapest SCSI interface
>you're going to find is something like a VAXstation 3100/10. You put the
>SCSI disks (and tapes) on it, and cluster the two systems together. Early
>3100's are dirt cheap these days.
>
>If you have two drives and they're big enough on the MV3400, you can do
>like I did for my MicroVAX 3. I simply backed up the Hobbyist CD, copied
>it over the network to a RA73 and restored it to a RA72, then I booted off
>the RA72. Since you already have VMS installed on the MV3400 this should
>work for you also (I had 5.5-2 on a RD54 when I did it).
Cool idea, I've got to remember that one. Of course that is the power of these
beasts isn't it? :-)
--
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http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
4:18 p.m.
New subject: Need SCSI interface for Microvax 3400
>If you
have two drives and they're big enough on the MV3400, you can do
>like I did for my MicroVAX 3. I simply backed up the Hobbyist CD, copied
>it over the network to a RA73 and restored it to a RA72, then I booted off
>the RA72. Since you already have VMS installed on the MV3400 this should
>work for you also (I had 5.5-2 on a RD54 when I did it).
Cool idea, I've got to remember that one. Of course that is the power of these
beasts isn't it? :-)
8 Nov
8 Nov
11:13 p.m.
New subject: Cluster for VMS install?
I now have a vaxstation 3100/76 with openvms 7.2 installed (the 3100 has
1 dec cdrom drive and 1 RZ24 disk)..it seems to work fine.
How can I get my Microvax 3400 (with 2 400MB drives that now boots to
vms 5.?) to be able to reinstall vms from the 3100 (since the 3400 doesn't
have scsi....and I have no tape install media for vms..I'm trying to get a
new install of vms on the 3400 and some had suggested that getting a working
3100 might be a start and the rest involved clustering.....
Any ideas? I am new to the openvms world. Is it possible to point the
3400 to the 3100 and have it boot from the 3100's cdrom drive? (presuming, of
course, that I've connected thinnet between the systems)?
thanks.
-Bob
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