Warren Wolfe <lists at databasics.us> wrote: This just begs for a short reply. (Sorry, I just can't resist...) Show me a *single* site that is running Windows 24/7 without rebooting several times a month, *minimum*. Considering that Microsoft regularly sends updates that *require* reboots, I doubt you can show me any. So those thousands, if not millions, are just a myth. They don't exist. But people have become too blind to the regular reboots to even notice. But Microsoft certainly would like to get you to think that Windows is that stable. And trying to surpress the voice of people who say that it is not, is the first, and most important step in the propaganda wars. And that is what is going on here. People are using all kind of arguments to try and prove that Windows is stable. And for the record, I don't see the bsod that often anymore. But I do experience that after running XP for a week or so, it gets very slow, and almost unusable. I *do* need to reboot it, to keep using it. But I can't send a crash dump, because I don't get one. If someone could do an analysis of what happens, and why, I'd be most happy. I've tried registry tools to optimize that, I've tried disk defragmenting, tried monitoring processes, memory usage, and what not. There are a (very) large number of processes active after a while that I don't know exactly what they do, but they sure look legitimate, and I've tried running any number of antivirus programs and scanners without finding anything. And I've also been in contact with Microsoft support in the past, who have recommended reinstalling the system to get it back in shape. The only good argument for surpression of this thread that I've seen is that it really is off topic. But on the other hand, I do consider it an important general service to the civilization to actually keep repeating that Windows is a bad product, or otherwise the domination will become total, and it's bad enough as it is. If people don't speak up against it, Windows will win by default. So, you Windows advocates drop it (after all, you started it), this thread will die the death it deserves. You'll survive even if you loose this battle, since you appear to be winning the war anyway. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol