12 May
2008
12 May
'08
3:25 a.m.
The Soviet Soyuz-Neon PK-11:
http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=245
Regardless, a very interesting site with photos of various Soviet-era
personal computers.
Cheers,
Chuck
12 May
12 May
4:07 a.m.
At 8:25 PM -0700 5/11/08, Chuck Guzis wrote:
The Soviet Soyuz-Neon PK-11:
http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=245
Regardless, a very interesting site with photos of various Soviet-era
personal computers.
That's quite the piece of hardware. It appears to have two cartridge
slots, any idea if it had any sort of tape or disk drive? I love the
piece of paper and two pieces of cardboard in between the SIPP's (at
least I assume those are memory boards and some form of SIPP).
That's what I call "high-quality" manufacturing! :^)
Definitely an interesting looking system.
Zane
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4:30 a.m.
On Sun, 11 May 2008, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Thanks for posting that!
4:44 a.m.
The Soviet Soyuz-Neon PK-11:
http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=245
No, the MK-90 is smaller, and weighs only 0.7 kg:
http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-90.html
When I first heard of it I was skeptical of the claim that
it used a PDP-11-compatible processor, but since then I've
verified it by actually running my own PDP-11 code on one.
Eric
5:16 a.m.
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 09:44:31PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote:
Both of those are really neat. I've wanted to get a Russian PDP-11
clone for over 10 years, but never run across any, even during the
two weeks I was in Moscow in 1999 (I suppose I could have tried
harder, but I didn't really know anyone who knew anyone there).
I saw all sorts of stuff for sale in flea markets, but it was mostly
toiletries, hand tools, clothing, puppies/kittens... no calculators
or computers.
I did investigate some Ukranian sites selling all sorts of Russian
goods a few years back, but the "handling fees" were going to top
$100 for something like the PK-11, and I didn't pursue it further.
The closest I've come is finding a Russian PDP-11 emulator for MS-DOS
c. 1994. It used one of the code pages to handle the Cyrillic issue.
It booted and ran RT-11 v4.0 IIRC, but since I didn't have any
Russian-specific apps, I didn't do much with it. I have no idea
where I got it (CompuServe forum download?) or where a copy of it
might be now, but it was at least interesting to fire up.
-ethan
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The Soviet
Soyuz-Neon PK-11:
http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=245
No, the MK-90 is smaller, and weighs only 0.7 kg:
http://www.taswegian.com/MOSCOW/mk-90.html
When I first heard of it I was skeptical of the claim that
it used a PDP-11-compatible processor, but since then I've
verified it by actually running my own PDP-11 code on one. 
1:28 p.m.
At 12:16 AM 5/12/2008, you wrote:
Both of those are really neat. I've wanted to get
a Russian PDP-11
clone for over 10 years, but never run across any, even during the
two weeks I was in Moscow in 1999 (I suppose I could have tried
harder, but I didn't really know anyone who knew anyone there).
Several of the Electronika BK-0010 and MC series are supposedly DEC compatible, too:
http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=57
- John
10:44 p.m.
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 08:28:50AM -0500, John Foust wrote:
At 12:16 AM 5/12/2008, you wrote:
I think it was a BK-0010 or something very similar that I was looking for
when I was in Russia, since unlike the handhelds (which are very neat
all by themselves), the BK-0010 runs RT-11, IIRC.
-ethan
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South Pole Station
PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -71.9 F (-57.7 C) Windchill -103.7 F (-75.4 C)
APO AP 96598 Wind 8.0 kts Grid 10 Barometer 677.6 mb (10719 ft)
Ethan.Dicks at usap.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html
Both of those are really neat. I've wanted to
get a Russian PDP-11
clone for over 10 years, but never run across any, even during the
two weeks I was in Moscow in 1999 (I suppose I could have tried
harder, but I didn't really know anyone who knew anyone there).
Several of the Electronika BK-0010 and MC series are supposedly DEC compatible, too:
http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=57 
9:13 p.m.
The Soviet Soyuz-Neon PK-11:
http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=245
Actually, I htink there's a smaller one. DIdn't at least one of the
Soviet handheld computers (Elektronika MK85 or some such) have a
PDP11-compatible CPU chip inside?
-tony
9:57 p.m.
I liked that digital pocket watch.
The Sura 8080 machine looks interesting. I've seen disks from Russia on a
Microsoft Stand-Alone BASIC (such as NEC used), one of which appeared to
be Okidata.
The SCP 3.0 CP/M would be fun, as well as the DCP 3.0 MS-DOS, and
Alpha-DOS
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