26 Mar
2001
26 Mar
'01
9:59 a.m.
About a month ago, I posted that I picked up a Mac SE/30, sans keyboard and
mouse. Today, I got a keyboard and mouse, and now need to figure out how to
bypass security on this thing. It boots, and prompts me for a password.
Three times, and it shuts down. I know Apple has older MacOS releases on
their ftp site, but that begs the question - how do I create MacOS disks if
I lack a Mac to create them?
I think I recall seeing somewhere that you can bypass extensions on bootup
by pressing a shift key, but that didn't work, so I assume that this isn't
an extension, but something intergral into the OS itself...
26 Mar
26 Mar
1:14 p.m.
I think I recall seeing somewhere that you can bypass
extensions on bootup
by pressing a shift key, but that didn't work, so I assume that this isn't
an extension, but something intergral into the OS itself...
I don't believe that any Mac OS version prior to 9.0 came
with an integrated password system. Obviously, the SE/30 isn't
running OS 9.0 since it is a 68k Mac and support for the non-PPC
machines was dropped a number of revisions back. When you booted the
SE/30 with the shift-key held down, did it show you on the splash
screen 'Extensions Off' or did it seemingly boot normally, showing
the icons along the bottom as it booted?
Jeff
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1:49 p.m.
This is what it is doing, it is showing the icons on the bottom of the
screen during boot, even while I hold the shift key down.
When you booted the
SE/30 with the shift-key held down, did it show you on the splash
screen 'Extensions Off' or did it seemingly boot normally, showing
the icons along the bottom as it booted?
2:17 p.m.
This is what it is doing, it is showing the icons on
the bottom of the
screen during boot, even while I hold the shift key down.
I wonder -- do you have At Ease running? What does the password window
requestor look like?
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3:08 p.m.
This is what
it is doing, it is showing the icons on the bottom of the
screen during boot, even while I hold the shift key down.
I wonder -- do you have At Ease running? What does the password window
requestor look like?
27 Mar
27 Mar
5:32 a.m.
I really have no idea what's running - I picked it out of a junk pile.
The password box pops up, as a dialogue that says "Enter password for
Macinto.", and a text entry box. I assume that the "Macinto" is a
truncation
of "Macintosh". The time time I try, it says "Enter password for
Appli(cations)". After the third incorrect password, the machine does a
shutdown, and I can press the Restart button on the screen.
This is what it is doing, it is showing the icons
on the bottom of the
screen during boot, even while I hold the shift key down.
I wonder -- do you have At Ease running? What does the password window
requestor look like?
1 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy D'Augustine <azog(a)azog.org>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Mac SE/30
their ftp site, but that begs the question - how do I
create MacOS disks
if
I lack a Mac to create them?
You can use something called HFVexplorer (or something like that) that can
format and write 400k,800k and 1.4M Mac format disks on PC running windows.
Search the net for it, its free. It works, I have used it before.
Claude
26 Mar
26 Mar
12:07 p.m.
From: "Claude.W"
<claudew(a)videotron.ca>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Mac SE/30
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:00:41 -0500
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Billy D'Augustine <azog(a)azog.org>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Mac SE/30
1.44 yes, 800/400 no! Needs Mac /w superdrive for that. Copy them
via sneakernet or move them over the 'net via basilisk II and HVF
explorer. That program is properly called HVF explorer.
If the disk is raw image, use rawrite. That works.
Wizard
their ftp site, but that begs the question - how
do I create MacOS disks
if
I lack a Mac to create them?
You can use something called HFVexplorer (or something like that) that can
format and write 400k,800k and 1.4M Mac format disks on PC running windows.
Search the net for it, its free. It works, I have used it before.
Claude
2:23 p.m.
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Claude.W wrote:
You can use something called HFVexplorer (or something
like that) that can
format and write 400k,800k and 1.4M Mac format disks on PC running windows.
Search the net for it, its free. It works, I have used it before.
Doing 1.4M Mac format on a PC is a relatively straightforward, albeit
definitely non-trivial, task of implementing an alien file system.
But doing 400K and 800K Mac formats on stock PC hardware would be VERY
interesting, as it is not possible to get PC FDCs to do those forms of
recording.
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Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
27 Mar
27 Mar
3:20 p.m.
Another simple way to get files to non built in ethernet macs like SE30s,
Classic IIs and such that only have built in Appletalk is to run a
Ethernet---Appletalk bridge off a more recent 68k mac thats got ethernet and
then connect the non-ethernet macs to there with Appletalk.
Very practical and speed is not a concern because most of the times the
files going to compact classic macs are quite small in size...
I run this off a 6100/66 permanently attached to my home network... Works
great for loading up small compact macs with software from the net...
The software is free off the Apple ftp site. I have used it many times and
it works fine...
Have fun
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Mac SE/30
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Claude.W wrote:
> You can use something called HFVexplorer (or something like that) that
can
> format and write 400k,800k and 1.4M Mac format
disks on PC running
windows.
Search the net
for it, its free. It works, I have used it before.
Doing 1.4M Mac format on a PC is a relatively straightforward, albeit
definitely non-trivial, task of implementing an alien file system.
But doing 400K and 800K Mac formats on stock PC hardware would be VERY
interesting, as it is not possible to get PC FDCs to do those forms of
recording.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
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