There certainly were a few vendors whose systems were as much off-center as
the N*. Just take a look at Vector Graphics' systems, for example. I once
owned a couple of those, with their memory-mapped video refresh memory.
They were another box which didn't have enough TPA to run the output
generated from, say, the MT+ Pascal compiler in a unit with a contiguous 64k
RAM.
As I wrote before, the problems went away with the later releases of various
compilers, but while prejudices are easy to acquire, they're difficult to
eliminate.
N* had their own version of a DOS, IIRC, and perhaps that's what made their
management believe they didn't need to offer an efficient and
CP/M-compatible product. Myself, I could never recommend a system which
didn't read/write the standard distribution media for is native OS.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Northstar Horizon
<Well . . . here we go . . . the fact that N* memory
mapped their FDC was
on
<thing that clearly would fall in the MISTAKE
category. What the reason fo
<the existence of the smaller TPA resulting from memory mapping anything is
the TPA bit was something I could care less about. The memory mapped
design was functional, not pretty. Of course the first controller I'd
built was IOmapped not for more space but because it was easier to decode
8bits rather than 16. Was it the right way for them, not really but it
worked. there were plenty of other memory mapped designs that were not
nearly as nice. It's the way it was right or wrong. So happens I have
two and one replaced my altair. It was a damm sight better and reliable
depite two lightiing hits. The only design fault I sought to fix was
the lack of storage denisty, 80k per drive was far from enough. The later
controller and software was an improvement but hard sector was a problem
as it was not even remotely portable. The processor card and the IO on
the backplane was however very nicely done. Like many I used third party
ram mostly because I'd alreay had 32k of SEALS 8k static from the altair.
I still do not ahve NS* ram for the odler box, I'd put in a Compupro
Ram-16 back in '84 to get rid of the six 8k static and a 16k static.
Such is the evolution of just one system.
<of no relevance. It was a justification for SOME of us, me included, to
<draw a line through their products whenever they appeared in a list. Of
<course their price would have been another.
It was their price that made them attractive. Least on the east coast.
Some systems like CCS I'd never seen until a few years ago. Others were
a bit rich price wise or questionable vendors.
Allison