Re: Tim Shoppa's last message. When I had this machine running, it would attempt to boot from the Floppy (when asked to do so from ODT). The problem at the time (which still exists) was I had no bootable media in said floppy drive, thereby eliciting continued head loads, at about the tempo of a dirge. Clic, read, 'nothing here...' clic, read, 'nothing here...' clic, read.... Had I known Then what I know Now (grateful thanks to Tim and Megan and Allison) I could have made a bootable disk on one of the other machines, and gotten it going. Aaron's problem is classic Catch 22... and I have just now freed up some weekend time to perhaps assist him in that regard. Note to Aaron: the Docs you gave me are In Process, and will be returned to you when complete. Cheers John