30 May
2000
30 May
'00
10:15 p.m.
Following post from comp.sys.dec reposted to classic computers at
request of originator. Anyone on the list that can help him?
I have the Pro380 console and 5.25" media for an 8530 console, (and an
8530 - minus the console to vax cables) even VMS on 9 track, but I'm a
bit far away... I initially thought this place was in Europe somewhere,
but it seems it's actually in New York USA.
I've mentioned the room heater effects of ECL based systems.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Konigsberg" <konigd(a)rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 1:31 AM
Subject: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
Hello,
In the Electronics Club at RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute),
we've come across a number of old DEC machines. It all started with a
PDP-11/45, then we got a VAX 8530 that was being dumped. We also have
a VAXstation 4 (doesn't exist, but we have one, and it looks like a II
by the case design) and a VAXstation 3100. Anyways, the main problem
is the 8530. Our main RA82 hard drive doesn't spin up, and we can't
find the problem. We have other functional hard drives, but no means
of installing VMS on them. Basically, we need the tape for our TU81+
tape drive (6250bpi, I think), and the 5-1/4" floppy disk to put in
the console to bootstrap the machine. Yes, for anyone who didn't
know, this machine requires a special "VAX Console" (no, it's not a
terminal) to tell the machine to power up and to download the
microcode. Anyways, right now the machine is an impressive metal
obstruction in the room until we get it operational. So, does anyone
have or know where we can find the right VMS media for this beast?
P.S. Just wondering, but anyone know what thing thing sold for back in
'87 when it was new?
Thanks,
Derek Konigsberg
RPI Electronics Club, President
konigd(a)rpi.edu
31 May
31 May
10:11 a.m.
New subject: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
I've got VMS 2.something on 8" floppies, and VMS 5.something on TK-50 tapes,
but that's it. There might be a way to finagle VMS onto the 9 track or 5.25"
media from the current OpenVMS distro on CD. Check out the NetBSD VAX
Section (http://www.netbsd.org/") People have come up with some pretty
inventive ways of getting NetBSD onto a machine, you might be able to use
the same procedures with VMS.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Roberts" <geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:15 PM
Subject: Fw: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
Following post from comp.sys.dec reposted to classic
computers at
request of originator. Anyone on the list that can help him?
I have the Pro380 console and 5.25" media for an 8530 console, (and an
8530 - minus the console to vax cables) even VMS on 9 track, but I'm a
bit far away... I initially thought this place was in Europe somewhere,
but it seems it's actually in New York USA.
I've mentioned the room heater effects of ECL based systems.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Konigsberg" <konigd(a)rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 1:31 AM
Subject: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
Hello,
In the Electronics Club at RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute),
we've come across a number of old DEC machines. It all started with a
PDP-11/45, then we got a VAX 8530 that was being dumped. We also have
a VAXstation 4 (doesn't exist, but we have one, and it looks like a II
by the case design) and a VAXstation 3100. Anyways, the main problem
is the 8530. Our main RA82 hard drive doesn't spin up, and we can't
find the problem. We have other functional hard drives, but no means
of installing VMS on them. Basically, we need the tape for our TU81+
tape drive (6250bpi, I think), and the 5-1/4" floppy disk to put in
the console to bootstrap the machine. Yes, for anyone who didn't
know, this machine requires a special "VAX Console" (no, it's not a
terminal) to tell the machine to power up and to download the
microcode. Anyways, right now the machine is an impressive metal
obstruction in the room until we get it operational. So, does anyone
have or know where we can find the right VMS media for this beast?
P.S. Just wondering, but anyone know what thing thing sold for back in
'87 when it was new?
Thanks,
Derek Konigsberg
RPI Electronics Club, President
konigd(a)rpi.edu
1:04 p.m.
New subject: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
At 10:11 AM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote:
I've got VMS 2.something on 8" floppies, and
VMS 5.something on TK-50 tapes,
but that's it. There might be a way to finagle VMS onto the 9 track or 5.25"
media from the current OpenVMS distro on CD.
An interesting question. I've VMS 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, and 7.x distributions on
various media but none on 9-trk. I tried to get one recently but it had
already been thrown away (youch!). So is it possible for VMS to _create_
distribution media? Can you clone from one type to another? I could,
presumably create a 9 track tape with the save sets on them and then create
one with standalone backup so that you could boot standalone backup, and
then copy the save sets. Would that be sufficient? (Unfortunately my TU81+
is out for the count, no doubt another one will tumble this way.)
--Chuck
2:02 p.m.
New subject: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
This might help: http://vaxine.bitcon.no/section3.html#ss33
It tells you how to make a NetBSD boot tape in *nix and VMS. Maybe you can
tar if= a disk image or something and tar=of onto a tape. Probably won't
work but worth a shot.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck McManis" <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
create
At 10:11 AM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote:
>I've got VMS 2.something on 8" floppies, and VMS 5.something on TK-50
tapes,
>but that's it. There might be a way to finagle
VMS onto the 9 track or
5.25"
media from the
current OpenVMS distro on CD.
An interesting question. I've VMS 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, and 7.x distributions on
various media but none on 9-trk. I tried to get one recently but it had
already been thrown away (youch!). So is it possible for VMS to _create_
distribution media? Can you clone from one type to another? I could,
presumably create a 9 track tape with the save sets on them and then one with standalone backup so that you could boot
standalone backup, and
then copy the save sets. Would that be sufficient? (Unfortunately my TU81+
is out for the count, no doubt another one will tumble this way.)
--Chuck
7:43 p.m.
New subject: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
I've copied VMS 5.? onto 9-track tape for my '750. The only major
problem is booting standalone backup. 9-tracks aren't bootable
(or at least I've never seen a boot program that worked for them).
clint
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Chuck McManis wrote:
At 10:11 AM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote:
I've got VMS 2.something on 8" floppies,
and VMS 5.something on TK-50 tapes,
but that's it. There might be a way to finagle VMS onto the 9 track or 5.25"
media from the current OpenVMS distro on CD.
An interesting question. I've VMS 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, and 7.x distributions on
various media but none on 9-trk. I tried to get one recently but it had
already been thrown away (youch!). So is it possible for VMS to _create_
distribution media? Can you clone from one type to another? I could,
presumably create a 9 track tape with the save sets on them and then create
one with standalone backup so that you could boot standalone backup, and
then copy the save sets. Would that be sufficient? (Unfortunately my TU81+
is out for the count, no doubt another one will tumble this way.)
--Chuck
9:56 p.m.
New subject: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Wolff (VAX collector)" <vaxman(a)uswest.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: VMS media availability for VAX 8530
I've copied VMS 5.? onto 9-track tape for my '750. The only major
problem is booting standalone backup. 9-tracks aren't bootable
(or at least I've never seen a boot program that worked for them).
Hmm, I'm fairly sure it's possible, but I've never tried it. (Never had
to) it should be just a matter of entering the correct incantations at
the console. The other problem the guy has is the lack of console o/s
or the media to install it. I have all that, (POS plus the console and
comms software) and VMS 6.x on 9 track, but was really hoping someone on
the same continent could offer some practical assistance.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Mark's College
Port Pirie,
South Australia
geoffrob at stmarks dot pp dot catholic dot edu dot au
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