On 6/5/07 21:01, "Jos Dreesen" <jos.dreesen at bluewin.ch> wrote: SYSBOOT> set startup_p1 "MIN" SYSBOOT> set uafalt 1 SYSBOOT> c . . . Log in as system and ignore the 2 password prompts. There'll be a problem if the system actually DOES have an alternate UAF file! $ set proc/priv=all $ set term/inq/perm $ define sysuaf sys$common:[sysexe]sysuaf.dat $ mc authorize UAF> mo system/pass=password/nowpdlif UAF> exit Then you can edit SYSTARTUP_V5.com and SYLOGICALS.COM to take out stuff that the machine no longer has and shut the system down. SYSBOOT> set startup_p1 "" SYSBOOT> set uafalt 0 SYSBOOT> c Then you can log in with the new password. No, as Pat points out DSSI is very susceptible to fuse blowing, but the VAX engineers obviously knew people would do things to upset it - the 2a pico fuse is easily accessible on the back of the console plate (behind where you plug in the console cable IIRC) -- Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer collection?