12 Sep
2018
12 Sep
'18
1:59 p.m.
Guys,
See these photos:
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2
53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BC
F55A0
and
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4
287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C
1358C6
The photos are of a board I recently obtained for my collection. I've not,
to date, been able to discover who the manufacturers were. It almost
certainly US, The chips are week 27 of 1970, NAND gates.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
peter
|| | | | | | | | |
Peter Van Peborgh
62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
01761 439 234
|| | | | | | | | |
12 Sep
12 Sep
2:30 p.m.
RCA made boards of this color and size, but not an exact match. Same
number of pins, similar blue. Not claiming it's RCA, but it's the
closest thing I have.
Here is one from a 1974ish COSMAC Microkit:
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/rca/COSMAC/RCA_GFA-3901808_front.jpg
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:59 PM Peter Van Peborgh via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Guys,
See these photos:
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2
53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BC
F55A0
<https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_253889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BCF55A0>
and
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4
287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C
1358C6
<https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C1358C6>
The photos are of a board I recently obtained for my collection. I've not,
to date, been able to discover who the manufacturers were. It almost
certainly US, The chips are week 27 of 1970, NAND gates.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
peter
|| | | | | | | | |
Peter Van Peborgh
62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
01761 439 234
|| | | | | | | | |
2:39 p.m.
The presence of the words 'NAND GATES' imply that this was part of some
educational kit for logic training, rather than a part of a system.
From: "General Discussion" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
To: peter at vanpeborgh.eu, "General Discussion" <cctech at
classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:30:42 AM
Subject: Re: Unknown US manufacturer - try again
RCA made boards of this color and size, but not an exact match. Same
number of pins, similar blue. Not claiming it's RCA, but it's the
closest thing I have.
Here is one from a 1974ish COSMAC Microkit:
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/rca/COSMAC/RCA_GFA-3901808_front.jpg
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:59 PM Peter Van Peborgh via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Guys,
See these photos:
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2
53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BC
F55A0
<https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_253889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BCF55A0>
and
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4
287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C
1358C6
<https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C1358C6>
The photos are of a board I recently obtained for my collection. I've not,
to date, been able to discover who the manufacturers were. It almost
certainly US, The chips are week 27 of 1970, NAND gates.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
peter
|| | | | | | | | |
Peter Van Peborgh
62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
01761 439 234
|| | | | | | | | |
4:17 p.m.
On Sep 12, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
The presence of the words 'NAND GATES' imply that this was part of some
educational kit for logic training, rather than a part of a system.
Could be. Then again, in the early days simple logic functions were packaged as modules
one could buy and plug into connectors to build larger systems. DEC's early logic
module products are an example. And I remember in Holland seeing similar stuff, small
circuit boards with transistors encased in gray plastic cases, with a 10 or so pin plug at
the bottom. These might contain a couple of 2-input NAND gates, or similarly simple
elements. And they would be labelled accordingly.
The fact that the board has tin rather than gold plated fingers does support the
"educational kit" notion; something intended for serious commercial use would be
expected to have more reliable connectors.
paul
3:39 p.m.
I suspect that it's from a trainer of some sort.
Stewart-Warner quad 2-input NAND DTL stuff. So probably not RCA.
--Chuck
4:08 p.m.
See 946 fairchild for pinout.
Dwight
________________________________
From: cctech <cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of Chuck Guzis via cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:39:44 PM
To: Peter Van Peborgh via cctech
Subject: Re: Unknown US manufacturer - try again
I suspect that it's from a trainer of some sort.
Stewart-Warner quad 2-input NAND DTL stuff. So probably not RCA.
--Chuck
4:20 p.m.
Is that a Control Logic logo? page 3-34 of this document:
https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/05/155/5155759.…
________________________________
From: cctech <cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of Peter Van Peborgh via
cctech <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:59 PM
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Subject: Unknown US manufacturer - try again
Guys,
See these photos:
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2
53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BC
F55A0
and
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4
287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C
1358C6
The photos are of a board I recently obtained for my collection. I've not,
to date, been able to discover who the manufacturers were. It almost
certainly US, The chips are week 27 of 1970, NAND gates.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
peter
|| | | | | | | | |
Peter Van Peborgh
62 St Mary's Rise
Writhlington Radstock
Somerset BA3 3PD
UK
01761 439 234
|| | | | | | | | |
5:59 p.m.
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 23:03 Kelly Leavitt via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Is that a Control Logic logo? page 3-34 of this
document:
https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/05/155/5155759.…
Nice work, detective! Even has the same model number prefix on the card.
Kyle
13 Sep
13 Sep
9:45 a.m.
Is that a Control Logic logo? page 3-34 of this
document:
https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/05/155/5155759.…
The September 18th, 1979 issue of Info World mentions "the Control Logic Industrial
Microcomputers, Interfaces, and Logic Modules catalog". That would be interesting to
see.
Kelly
9:48 a.m.
Is that a Control Logic logo? page 3-34 of this
document:
https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/05/155/5155759.…
Make that the September 19th, 1979 (not September 18th), issue of Info World mentions
"the Control Logic Industrial Microcomputers, Interfaces, and Logic Modules
catalog". That would be interesting to see.
Kelly
3:56 p.m.
we don't have much from this company, just a few modules
http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102735124
12 Sep
12 Sep
6:03 p.m.
On 9/12/2018 10:59 AM, Peter Van Peborgh via cctalk wrote:
Guys,
See these photos:
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2
53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BC
F55A0
and
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4
287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C
1358C6
Found in a 1965 manufacturer's volume on Bitsavers.? Used Kelly
Leavitt's reference.? looks like they
had some products up thru 1974,? but dropped this most likely.
This system of products would have been competitive with the DEC Flip
Chip concept of the early 60s,
and there were a lot of players.? (see others in the 1965 manufacturers
reference).
This shows reference info, category, and page it was located in the PDF
/ document.
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/computersAndAutomation/196506.pdf
Roster of Organizations:
Control Logic, Inc., 3 Strathmore Rd., Natick, Mass
? 01762 / 617-655-1170 / *C 65
?? Welded digital circuit modules; data and con-
?? trol systems; digital training systems / S 70
?? / E 1961
page 15 (of document and pdf
C11. CIRCUITS, LOGICAL (FOR DIGITAL COMPUTERS)
Control Logic, Inc., 3 Strathmore
? Rd., Natick, Mass. 01762 /
? digital circuit cards and
? welded modules / DESCR: welded
? encapsulated digital circuit
? modules, open circuit and
? module cards. Germanium and
? silicon circuits, DC to 50 MC
? / - / $5.50 per flipflop to
? $90 per flipflop / Cll
page 30
C24. COMPUTERS, DIGITAL
? see C24A
page 32
C24A. COMPUTERS, SPECIAL PURPOSE
Control Logic, Inc., 3 Strathmore
? Rd., Natick, Mass. 01762 /
? digital systems / DESCR: special
? purpose digital data handling,
? measurement and control systems
? /-/-/ C24A
page 33
C26. COMPUTER COMPONENTS
?? see C24A
page 33
C30. CONSULTING SERVICES (see also
???? "Survey of Consulting Services")
?? see C24A
page 34
C31. CONTROLS
?? see C24A
page 35
C33. CONTROLS, SIGNALLING
?? see C24A
? page 35
C34. CONTROLS, SORTING AND COUNTING
?? see C24A
page 35
C39. CONVERTERS, INFORMATION
?? see C24A
page 36
C53. COUNTERS
?? see C24A
page 36
El. EDUCATION
?? see C24A
page 38
G2. GENERATORS, FUNCTION, ELECTRONIC
?? see C24A
page 39
P2. PANELS, JACK
??? see C24A
page 40
Rll. REGISTERS, SHIFT
Control Logic, Inc. --see Cll
? and C24A
page 43
COMPUTERS and AUTOMATION for JUNE, 1965
9:11 p.m.
On 09/12/2018 06:03 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 9/12/2018 10:59 AM, Peter Van Peborgh via cctalk wrote:
Small world,
Built a 8008 system for a company I was with back in early 74 using
their board set
and backplane.?
Allison
Guys,
See these photos:
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2
53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd&oe=5BC
F55A0
and
https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4
287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44&oe=5C
1358C6
Found in a 1965 manufacturer's volume on Bitsavers.? Used Kelly
Leavitt's reference.? looks like they
had some products up thru 1974,? but dropped this most likely.
This system of products would have been competitive with the DEC Flip
Chip concept of the early 60s,
and there were a lot of players.? (see others in the 1965
manufacturers reference).
This shows reference info, category, and page it was located in the
PDF / document.
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/computersAndAutomation/196506.pdf
Roster of Organizations:
Control Logic, Inc., 3 Strathmore Rd., Natick, Mass
? 01762 / 617-655-1170 / *C 65
?? Welded digital circuit modules; data and con-
?? trol systems; digital training systems / S 70
?? / E 1961
page 15 (of document and pdf
C11. CIRCUITS, LOGICAL (FOR DIGITAL COMPUTERS)
Control Logic, Inc., 3 Strathmore
? Rd., Natick, Mass. 01762 /
? digital circuit cards and
? welded modules / DESCR: welded
? encapsulated digital circuit
? modules, open circuit and
? module cards. Germanium and
? silicon circuits, DC to 50 MC
? / - / $5.50 per flipflop to
? $90 per flipflop / Cll
page 30
C24. COMPUTERS, DIGITAL
? see C24A
page 32
C24A. COMPUTERS, SPECIAL PURPOSE
Control Logic, Inc., 3 Strathmore
? Rd., Natick, Mass. 01762 /
? digital systems / DESCR: special
? purpose digital data handling,
? measurement and control systems
? /-/-/ C24A
page 33
C26. COMPUTER COMPONENTS
?? see C24A
page 33
C30. CONSULTING SERVICES (see also
???? "Survey of Consulting Services")
?? see C24A
page 34
C31. CONTROLS
?? see C24A
page 35
C33. CONTROLS, SIGNALLING
?? see C24A
? page 35
C34. CONTROLS, SORTING AND COUNTING
?? see C24A
page 35
C39. CONVERTERS, INFORMATION
?? see C24A
page 36
C53. COUNTERS
?? see C24A
page 36
El. EDUCATION
?? see C24A
page 38
G2. GENERATORS, FUNCTION, ELECTRONIC
?? see C24A
page 39
P2. PANELS, JACK
??? see C24A
page 40
Rll. REGISTERS, SHIFT
Control Logic, Inc. --see Cll
? and C24A
page 43
COMPUTERS and AUTOMATION for JUNE, 1965
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