<The local N* users must have figured that out eventually. One of them got <together with the guy who owned the Champion software outfit and started a <users group for the "superbrain" computer which was a complete system <packaged in what looked like a desktop terminal. I know that at least thi <one guy still had his N* after that. I still have Champion (for dos) running at work. It works. The only thing the NS* had wrong to most people was the controller in the memory map. NS* dos was far to primitive for most peoples liking but it was quite small. Most people I know liked the NS box for it's ruggedness and general good behavour. What wasn't liked much was the too small disks (~90k under NSdos, ~82 cpm for the SSSD controller) and the hard sector business. The DSDD controller was much better but, most people went with a good soft sector controller and CPM. My #1 NS* went that route in late 80 when I got my first upD765 to work with. Since the controller was reliable it went in an explorer8085 as a second system and eprom blaster. I still have those and a third stock NS* SD system and when I finally get a good DD NS* disk I'd fire it up as a DSDD system with the later controller installed. Was it the best? No, it was pretty good and most people liked it as a solid box. Allison