4 Jul
2007
4 Jul
'07
1:21 p.m.
And not only that, it is most definitely on topic.
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4 Jul
4 Jul
2:01 p.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
And not only that, it is most definitely on topic.
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I think the Dragon (the
little orange-red one)
has a better idea how to create a FRPG game than what I saw with that
comic. I suspect only when you get real AI - like Hal 9000 from 2001
will you get a good computer FRPG.
2:52 p.m.
--- Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
And not only that, it is most definitely on topic.
well my reply is probably OT. Was curious what's the
status (many/any active) of play-by-mail (e-mail)
rpg's. My interest is in the sci-fi type domain.
Anyone remember Space Opera, Aftermath,...
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3:21 p.m.
Chris M wrote:
--- Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com>
wrote:
Don't ask me... All I have heard
about was the ones where you send in your
PUNCHED CARD. I don't think they are around any more.
And not only that, it is most definitely on
topic.
well my reply is probably OT. Was curious what's the
status (many/any active) of play-by-mail (e-mail)
rpg's. My interest is in the sci-fi type domain.
Anyone remember Space Opera, Aftermath,...
3:57 p.m.
--- woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Chris M wrote:
I don't suppose you mean like a computer type punched
card (?). I do recall their being a few (1?) play by
mail rpg's back in the day. I know virtually nothing
about them though. I never even could fathom the
concept (got real time?). There was a yahoo group
centered around a superhero type rpg IIRC. This was
about a year ago.
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--- Cameron Kaiser <spectre at
floodgap.com> wrote:
> And not only that, it is most definitely on
topic.
well my reply is probably OT. Was curious what's
the
status (many/any active) of play-by-mail
(e-mail)
rpg's. My interest is in the sci-fi type domain.
Anyone remember Space Opera, Aftermath,...
Don't ask me... All I have heard
about was the ones
where you send in your
PUNCHED CARD. I don't think they are around any
more.
4:33 p.m.
New subject: A little levity: "computerized FRPG" - OT
Chris M wrote:
I don't suppose you mean like a computer type
punched
card (?). I do recall their being a few (1?) play by
mail rpg's back in the day. I know virtually nothing
about them though. I never even could fathom the
concept (got real time?). There was a yahoo group
centered around a superhero type rpg IIRC. This was
about a year ago.
That was about 1982 or so I was thinking of. I did not
play but you did send in your IBM cards in the mail if
I remember right from the person that did play.
RPG's are still best done by people
with lots of time and DM's who know how to think quickly
have reems of notes.
PC Look for traps ... % 03 snap ... We run umm west Look for ...
DM Roll Roll Roll % 100 ... Oh dam they found the back door out
... not the way in I planned.
6:07 p.m.
New subject: A little levity: "computerized FRPG" - OT
--- woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
That was about 1982 or so I was thinking of. I did
not
play but you did send in your IBM cards in the mail
if
I remember right from the person that did play.
RPG's are still best done by people
with lots of time and DM's who know how to think
quickly
have reems of notes.
PC Look for traps ... % 03 snap ... We run umm west
Look for ...
DM Roll Roll Roll % 100 ... Oh dam they found the
back door out
... not the way in I planned.
The best GM's were certifiable nut-cakes. Not in a
bad way :). The lack of lucidity did often make for
very creative scenarios.
I guess the knack though is to compel
player-characters to do what you want them to do. It's
really just like writing a novel.
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6:51 p.m.
At 4:21 PM -0600 7/4/07, woodelf wrote:
Chris M wrote:
>--- Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
>
>>And not only that, it is most definitely on topic.
>
> well my reply is probably OT. Was curious what's the
>status (many/any active) of play-by-mail (e-mail)
>rpg's. My interest is in the sci-fi type domain.
>Anyone remember Space Opera, Aftermath,...
Both still have a small following. My current favorite is "Call of
Cthulhu", I've been GMing a game now for about four years. More
importantly BRP, the underlying rule set, is something that people
with jobs, that rarely play, can remember. :^)
Don't ask me... All I have heard about was the ones
where you send in your
PUNCHED CARD. I don't think they are around any more.
These sound more like the old PBM strategy games rather than a RPG.
I think you'd send in your move for the turn, as would everyone else,
and then you'd get the results back. Something along the lines of
"Master of Orion". The person I knew that was playing in one didn't
have to fill out punch cards, but did have to fill out a form. I've
no idea the state of such games, I suspect they're all dead. How
many people are going to spend a few dollars per turn, with what was
probably a couple week, at least, turn around. This would actually
be an interesting area of study from both the gaming standpoint, and
the classic computer standpoint. I'd love to see some of the
software that was used to control these games, however, I'd guess
that most were written by the person running the game, and most of
the software has been lost.
I do know that many gamers play online, either via email, or other solutions.
As a Game Master, I prefer to have my group gathered around the
table, I view the social aspects of gaming (getting together with
friends and having fun) to be as important as the game.
Unfortunately we're all old enough, and have enough responsibilities
that we rarely are able to get together. I know a lot of GM's use
computers now during their gaming session, and I've even seen a
projector used, but I like to keep things as low tech as possible
when gaming. The extent of computer usage in my campaign is that I
use Adobe InDesign, Photoshop, and ClarisDraw for doing up stuff.
Zane
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8:04 p.m.
--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
These sound more like the old PBM strategy games
rather than a RPG.
I think you'd send in your move for the turn, as
would everyone else,
and then you'd get the results back. Something
along the lines of
"Master of Orion". The person I knew that was
playing in one didn't
have to fill out punch cards, but did have to fill
out a form. I've
no idea the state of such games, I suspect they're
all dead. How
many people are going to spend a few dollars per
turn, with what was
probably a couple week, at least, turn around. This
would actually
be an interesting area of study from both the gaming
standpoint, and
the classic computer standpoint. I'd love to see
some of the
software that was used to control these games,
however, I'd guess
that most were written by the person running the
game, and most of
the software has been lost.
This, although largely unrelated, reminds me of a
small game, the rulebook being a glorified pamphlet,
called En Garde. The backdrop was say 17th century
France, and although most of the rules had to do with
swordplay - and you had to announce your move/s at the
getgo (and the resultant combination determined the
outcome), there were aspects of social climbing. Not a
full fledged RPG, but a quaint little set of rules
nevertheless. If you were heavy into the history, it's
likely you could build onto it's framework.
No, sorry no computers were involved, or needed ;)
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8:27 p.m.
--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
These sound more like the old PBM strategy games
rather than a RPG.
Sigh. I'm so far out of that scene, that I had to Google "RPG". The
only meaning to me up until 30 seconds ago was that of a programming
language.
Cheers,
Chuck
9:13 p.m.
New subject: A little levity: "computerized FRPG" - ot
Zane H. Healy wrote:
As a Game Master, I prefer to have my group gathered
around the table, I
view the social aspects of gaming (getting together with friends and
having fun) to be as important as the game. Unfortunately we're all old
enough, and have enough responsibilities that we rarely are able to get
together. I know a lot of GM's use computers now during their gaming
session, and I've even seen a projector used, but I like to keep things
as low tech as possible when gaming. The extent of computer usage in my
campaign is that I use Adobe InDesign, Photoshop, and ClarisDraw for
doing up stuff.
As a Game player .. I have yet to have character rise to the next level,
I tend to roll rather badly. The last gaming store around here came and went about a year
ago
and what I saw was mostly traditional style of gaming, very use little of computers too.
How ever most of the games played tended to be space or vampire/demon campaigns.
I wonder if this reflects what is seen on TV as what people want to play?
Zane
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