17 Oct
2018
17 Oct
'18
11:21 a.m.
I know some of our members are into phones...
I am tossing the following in a skip to go to a recycler. I'd rather not
ship the units, but am willing to pull any boards if someone needs them.
Toshiba Strata DX
Toshiba CIX200
Toshiba CIX40
The will be sent off to recycler Monday or Tuesday.
J
17 Oct
17 Oct
11:54 a.m.
Hi Jay,
On 17/10/2018 16:21, Jay West via cctalk wrote:
I know some of our members are into phones...
I have an idea for a project to reduce my dependency on my phone. I'm
trying to move to a model where voice, voicemail, and SMS are all that I
need when I'm on the go. SMS would be used as an interface to control
various simple Internet-like functionalities.
I am tossing the following in a skip to go to a
recycler. I'd rather not
ship the units, but am willing to pull any boards if someone needs them.
Toshiba Strata DX
Toshiba CIX200
Toshiba CIX40
I'm still looking into whether these devices will help me. I'm at the
point of figuring out what the unknown unknowns are, as I'm new to
telephony.
Where are you located? I am in London, UK. I'm aware that due to the
likelihood of shipping there's a good chance this won't work out.
Kind regards,
Andrew
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11:57 a.m.
I'm still looking into whether these devices will
help me. I'm at the
point of figuring out what the unknown unknowns are, as I'm new to
telephony.
Where are you located? I am in London, UK. I'm aware that due to the
likelihood of shipping there's a good chance this won't work out.
It's an older office phone system. Boxes that run a bunch of office
phones. Not a mobile phone.
Anyone know of an ESS-5A that needs a home? I really would like to bring
one to HOPE in NYC one year.
- Ethan
12:04 p.m.
On 17/10/2018 16:57, ethan at 757.org wrote:
It's an older office phone system. Boxes that run
a bunch of office
phones. Not a mobile phone.
I'm not looking for a mobile phone. I'm looking for server-side
telephony hardware and services to implement an "SMS-based API" so that
I can perform various operations by using simple commands over SMS.
Andrew
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12:39 p.m.
On 10/17/2018 10:04 AM, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk wrote:
I'm looking for server-side telephony hardware and
services to implement
an "SMS-based API" so that I can perform various operations by using
simple commands over SMS.
Remember that it is possible to spoof or hijack SMS / phone numbers. So
don't rely on just that for security.
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2:36 p.m.
On 17 Oct 2018, at 17:39, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Remember that it is possible to spoof or hijack SMS / phone numbers. So don't rely
on just that for security.
Good point. As far as I can tell, there's no way of securing communications with a
purely SMS-based approach.
Maybe voice fingerprinting and authentication for each request..? I can already smell
feature creep.
3:32 p.m.
[Reposting because my previous reply to this message was set to the
wrong From address.]
On 17/10/2018 17:39, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Remember that it is possible to spoof or hijack SMS /
phone numbers.? So
don't rely on just that for security.
Good point. As far as I can tell, there's no way of securing
communications with a purely SMS-based approach.
Maybe voice fingerprinting and authentication for each request..? I can
already smell feature creep.
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5:10 p.m.
On 10/17/2018 01:32 PM, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk wrote:
[Reposting because my previous reply to this message
was set to the
wrong From address.]
I hate it when I do that.
Good point. As far as I can tell, there's no way
of securing
communications with a purely SMS-based approach.
I think you need additional factors in the SMS message to validate
things. Each additional factor makes it harder to /successfully/ spoof
control messages.
Think something along the lines of a OTP.
Maybe voice fingerprinting and authentication for each
request..?
I can already smell feature creep.
Um, as far as I know, SMS doesn't carry anything other than a small
amount of text.
Maybe you're meaning MMS, which can carry voice and more text.
I think that voice recognition might be more problematic. As in speech
recognition.
I would wonder about some sort of challenge response and / or
SMS(MMS)-back system.
You could also look at signing MMS messages (which can carry more data)
with a standard PKI. That way it would be trivial to have the recipient
validate things.
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12:07 p.m.
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 17:54, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have an idea for a project to reduce my dependency on my phone. I'm
trying to move to a model where voice, voicemail, and SMS are all that I
need when I'm on the go.
There are plenty of such devices around.
Some are trendy retro things:
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/new-nokia-3310-2017-review
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/aug/16/nokia-8110-4g-review-nos…
If you don't want something "retro" then there are still candy-bar
feature-phones:
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/feature/mobile-phone/best-basic-phones-of-201…
Here are some international models:
https://www.lifewire.com/basic-cell-phones-577534
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Thanks Liam!! Please read on below...
On 17/10/2018 17:07, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 17:54, Andrew Luke Nesbit via
cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
By "model" I meant something different so I think I may have confused
some readers. But the answers I got have been very helpful anyway.
I have an idea for a project to reduce my dependency on my phone. I'm
trying to move to a model where voice, voicemail, and SMS are all that I
need when I'm on the go.
There are plenty of such devices around. From the list you posted, the Nokia 8810 looks like my
favourite so far.
But the details of the review leave many things to be desired,
especially the reported difficulty of texting.
In fact, by "model", I meant a simple model of usage, i.e., voice and
SMS to reduce dependence on the phone. If the phone breaks or is
stolen, disruption to life is minimal. This also means that the phone
is not used for 2FA (I believe using one's primary phone for 2FA is a
terrible idea).
Second, relatively advanced functionality can be implemented by sending
SMS messages with simple commands and receiving a response to the phone
in some appropriate format. The server-side service, which might use a
service like Twilio, could do the heavy lifting. A navigation service
would be a useful service if you find yourself in a pinch, for example.
Third, access to WiFi and 4G are necessary for tethering, for when the
user wants to do real computing on a GNU/Linux laptop.
Andrew
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